Definition of a Man-Made Disaster

[Clyde]

Anthropogenic hazards or man-made hazards can come to fruition in the form of a man-made disaster. In this case, "anthropogenic" means threats having an element of human intent, negligence, or error; or involving a failure of a man-made system. This is opposed to natural disasters resulting from natural hazards (Wikimedia Foundation, Inc., 2012).

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[alabaster]

So, like a terrorist attack or a plant meltdown because Homer fell asleep? Makes sense to me. Not sure of everyone else's take on this. I think humans as a whole are a good hearted and well-intentioned bunch. Still, I do think that it's most likely going to be a man made disaster that send us(My family) out to the wilds. We live near DC, so obviously the never-ending threat of terrorism looms, as does the overly dense populace, which makes it more likely that one of us will "Screw the pooch" and cause some unbelievable crisis by accident. Thoughts?

 

[andrew maddalena]

I think peoplew need to talk about HAARP more, its not fake and i do beleive it was used in the earthquakes in haiti and japan. we as humans are destroying this planet, and all of the most powerful people in the world really dont give a ****.

 

[andrew maddalena]

But yeah bro, you know somone is going to **** up. Look up STUXNET virus.

 

[alabaster]

How do u prepare for that though? Is there something you can share with us that would inform us of what to do about it?

 

[Clyde]

So, like a terrorist attack or a plant meltdown because Homer fell asleep? Makes sense to me. Not sure of everyone else's take on this. I think humans as a whole are a good hearted and well-intentioned bunch. Still, I do think that it's most likely going to be a man made disaster that send us(My family) out to the wilds. We live near DC, so obviously the never-ending threat of terrorism looms, as does the overly dense populace, which makes it more likely that one of us will "Screw the pooch" and cause some unbelievable crisis by accident. Thoughts?

I know how you feel in the DC metro area. I live in between los angeles and a nuclear power plant. And because of Los angeles so close i also worry about pandemics.

 

[Krime]

I've read a lot online about people saying that's what they believe will happen to cause nukes to launch, Russian and US computers have almost launched a few times, and sometimes no one picks up the phone on the direct line. I've heard about this happening a few times and we get in touch just before launch, scary as hell if you ask me!

 

[Clyde]

I've read a lot online about people saying that's what they believe will happen to cause nukes to launch, Russian and US computers have almost launched a few times, and sometimes no one picks up the phone on the direct line. I've heard about this happening a few times and we get in touch just before launch, scary as hell if you ask me!

As a kid we used to nuclear war drills at school. I'm not talking about the 1950's either. More like the early 1980's.
As a kid the threat of being nuked by the USSR was very real.
It doesn't take much for a computer to go hay-wire or some worker to flip out and start pushing buttons.

 

[alabaster]

Yeah, I just watched a show on History Channel that covered a near nuclear war in the '80s when Reagan was in office. We and some northern european nations had run a drill and the KGB intercepted that chatter and thought it was real and not training. It was just like "Sum of All Fears", just without the nuke being lit off in Baltimore Harbor. Other than that, the stories were remarkably similar.

 

[Krime]

ya its funny how some "fictional" movies/books turn up to be quite truthful!

 

[Clyde]

ya its funny how some "fictional" movies/books turn up to be quite truthful!

That's when you start wondering, is life is imitating art or is art imitating life?

 

[marvinsmith]

Today we are polluting our environment in various ways. Which leads to global warming, because of this glaciers are melting which increases the sea level. To overcome these problems, avoid using vehicles go by bicycle.

 

[Clyde]

Today we are polluting our environment in various ways. Which leads to global warming, because of this glaciers are melting which increases the sea level. To overcome these problems, avoid using vehicles go by bicycle.

Ok, well I must disagree, as there has actually been a cooling trend for the past 11 or so years.

 

[Warriorhealer22]

So, like a terrorist attack or a plant meltdown because Homer fell asleep? Makes sense to me. Not sure of everyone else's take on this. I think humans as a whole are a good hearted and well-intentioned bunch. Still, I do think that it's most likely going to be a man made disaster that send us(My family) out to the wilds. We live near DC, so obviously the never-ending threat of terrorism looms, as does the overly dense populace, which makes it more likely that one of us will "Screw the pooch" and cause some unbelievable crisis by accident. Thoughts?

I think DC is already producing a manmade disaster I think its called Congress

 

[Warriorhealer22]

I've read a lot online about people saying that's what they believe will happen to cause nukes to launch, Russian and US computers have almost launched a few times, and sometimes no one picks up the phone on the direct line. I've heard about this happening a few times and we get in touch just before launch, scary as hell if you ask me!

I like to think that that is just conspiracy theory talk, but you never know. BTW, our government gave the Soviets Cray supercomputers to help with their nuclear program during the Cold War. Imagine if it were left to the Soviets to build computers!

Trouble is many disasters can be manmade but fall under other categories. Think on Japan- Tsunami/earthquake/nuclear disaster! Crap! The Homer falling asleep scenario is possible.

 

[Krime]

Ok, well I must disagree, as there has actually been a cooling trend for the past 11 or so years.

Actually i have a theory on that:
It has been getting hotter n hotter too, yet you're right, its getting colder as well, well this, imho, is because of the heat.
You see, because it is so hot it evaporates the waters, all waterd, lakes, rivers, ocean, etc etc. well that vapor turns into clouds that then covers the sun and it then becomes cold. you can somewhat notice this right here in so-cal, we'll have a few days of freaken hot weather, then we'll have cloud cover n possably rain. the hotter it becomes, the more cloud cover we have afterward.

 

[nowhereman]

Would an overthrow of the government be considered a man made disaster or a man made fix to a disaster?

 

[Lone Ranger]

Ok, well I must disagree, as there has actually been a cooling trend for the past 11 or so years.

I agree..last winter was the coldest it's been in quite a a few years here in N.B.
Also without mentioning this humid heat wave we are having here now for the past week or so the temp is cooler.
Thanks Clyde...

 

[Tyler]

The world is getting warmer as a whole, it should not be called global warming and I hate that term, it should be called climate change. Some spots are getting hotter and some colder. The world has risen 1 degree as an average in the last 50ish years I think. That is a bad thing, because we aren't doing anything about it. Put it like this, 4 more degrees average and Canada and russia become the world producers for exotic fruits. That is, if anyone is left alive to buy it

 

[Clyde]

The world is getting warmer as a whole, it should not be called global warming and I hate that term, it should be called climate change. Some spots are getting hotter and some colder. The world has risen 1 degree as an average in the last 50ish years I think. That is a bad thing, because we aren't doing anything about it. Put it like this, 4 more degrees average and Canada and russia become the world producers for exotic fruits. That is, if anyone is left alive to buy it

The earth's temperature is cyclical. I am not too overly worried about the temp as there isn't a whole lot I can do about it, except use my A/C more.

A climate oscillation or climate cycle is any recurring cyclical oscillation within global or regional climate, and is a type of climate pattern. These fluctuations in atmospheric temperature, sea surface temperature, precipitation or other parameters can be quasi-periodic, often occurring on inter-annual, multi-annual, decadal, multidecadal, century-wide, millennial or longer timescales. A prominent example is the El Niño-Southern Oscillation, involving sea surface temperatures along a stretch of the equatorial Central and East Pacific Ocean and the western coast of tropical South America, but which affects climate worldwide.

Records of past climate conditions are recovered through geological examination of proxies, found in glacier ice, sea bed sediment, tree ring studies or otherwise.

Many oscillations on different time-scales are hypothesized, although the causes may be unknown. They include:

• the Ice ages
• the Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation
• the El Niño Southern Oscillation
• the Pacific decadal oscillation
• the Interdecadal Pacific Oscillation
• the Arctic oscillation
• the North Atlantic Oscillation
• the North Pacific Oscillation

( Wikimedia Foundation, Inc., 2013)​

 

[Overlord]

ya its funny how some "fictional" movies/books turn up to be quite truthful!

Isn't it possible that this is a plot to desensitize people to what is happening so that when it happens, people would not panic that much and say "I saw that in a movie and let's do what the protagonist did... blah blah blah"

What do you think? Am not trying to hatch a Conspiracy Theory but ...

 

[QuietH3art]

Anthropogenic hazards or man-made hazards can come to fruition in the form of a man-made disaster. In this case, "anthropogenic" means threats having an element of human intent, negligence, or error; or involving a failure of a man-made system. This is opposed to natural disasters resulting from natural hazards (Wikimedia Foundation, Inc., 2012).

Last night on FOX news show "Hannity," Mark Levine, author of "The Liberty Amendments: Restoring The American Republic," "Ameritopia," "Liberty and Tyranny: A Conservative Manifesto" and other political books stated that only 30% of Americans fought in the Revolutionary War. That 70% buried their heads in the sand and pretended nothing was happening. They are doing the same today and it is up to the 20-30% of us who are willing and able to do something about it to start pressing for change in whatever form we have to do so.

It shocked me to see this conservative man on tv essentially calling for war.

 

[Hockie]

Last night on FOX news show "Hannity," Mark Levine, author of "The Liberty Amendments: Restoring The American Republic," "Ameritopia," "Liberty and Tyranny: A Conservative Manifesto" and other political books stated that only 30% of Americans fought in the Revolutionary War. That 70% buried their heads in the sand and pretended nothing was happening. They are doing the same today and it is up to the 20-30% of us who are willing and able to do something about it to start pressing for change in whatever form we have to do so.

It shocked me to see this conservative man on tv essentially calling for war.

it was much worse than that, at the beginning of the Revolutionary war, only about 5% of the population supported the idea of separating from England, much less was willing to kill or die for it.

 

[Liv4today55]

Cyber Attack on United States infrastructure is a Huge concern. The US participated in melting down Iran's nuclear program and setting in back several years. Now Obama is going to finance Iran's nuclear bomb. North Korea has nothing to lose as they are not dependent on the the Internet or inter connected by electronics. Any third world country or independent hacker out to make a statement may attack the non secured electrical grid of the United States. Shocking news- The federal government has NO plan to care for multiple states and 10's of millions of citizens if we lose power for over 5 days or lose the very large transformers! Just ask your local Office of Emergency Management what they are prepared to do beyond 5 days for your entire area

 

[Warriorhealer22]

Hey, if Iran wants a nuclear weapon so bad, I say we give them one! I believe one of our subs could deliver that weapon rather quickly!

 

[Warriorhealer22]

Concerning the people and the Revolutionary War. Take a good look at the history of it. Many colonists were isolated, there wasn't instant access to information. Also, think of the average person living back then. Do you really think they cared about "taxation without representation"? They cared about staying alive, feeding their family. Only the landed gentry and few business people really cared (the signers of the declaration were not commoners). Before us, freedom and liberty were really unheard of, heck, some of them were already living free- off the grid, away from others, not bothering with government at all. It wasn't until the war actually started that all the writing we read took place- Common Sense, and other writings. It must have been extremely difficult getting people to leave their land march, freeze, kill, die for ideals back then.

 

[Silent Earth]

If WE can have nukes ( We being UK / US/ France/ Russia/ India/Pakistan/ North Korea and Israel how can we object to any other nation wanting parity? Iran fears Saudi Arabia both seek nuclear weapons, Look back and see WHO has started the most wars, Look and see who has USED nukes in anger.

just because some idiot Islamic clerics rant and rave about destroying the west does not mean those countries want to do that any more than say the Gent in the threads above (Warriorhealer) who expresses a desire to nuke Iran speaks for the US.

Not that many years ago I read of many American folk of various outlooks saying " We in the west should nuke all countries that harbour terrorists" I pointed out that from the 1960s to the 1990s The US had willingly aided, harboured and funded IRA terrorists and Spanish ETA terrorists openly in places like Boston, Indeed in NYC one St Pats day parade the good people of that city had wanted convicted IRA bombers leading the parade. So using that analogy should the UK have turned NYC and Boston into glass? No of course not ( I can see lots of GOP supporters shouting YES, stop it )

 

[Warriorhealer22]

If WE can have nukes ( We being UK / US/ France/ Russia/ India/Pakistan/ North Korea and Israel how can we object to any other nation wanting parity? Iran fears Saudi Arabia both seek nuclear weapons, Look back and see WHO has started the most wars, Look and see who has USED nukes in anger.

just because some idiot Islamic clerics rant and rave about destroying the west does not mean those countries want to do that any more than say the Gent in the threads above (Warriorhealer) who expresses a desire to nuke Iran speaks for the US.

Not that many years ago I read of many American folk of various outlooks saying " We in the west should nuke all countries that harbour terrorists" I pointed out that from the 1960s to the 1990s The US had willingly aided, harboured and funded IRA terrorists and Spanish ETA terrorists openly in places like Boston, Indeed in NYC one St Pats day parade the good people of that city had wanted convicted IRA bombers leading the parade. So using that analogy should the UK have turned NYC and Boston into glass? No of course not ( I can see lots of GOP supporters shouting YES, stop it )

Ok Northern Raider, I'm going to squash this right now before this comes to more back and forth than it was meant to. Honestly I was having a bit of fun with the phrase. Having seen war, I have no wish to see devastation like that. I don't disagree that governments pick sides and "freedom fighter" and "terrorist" depend on who's saying what. I study my history, as I'm sure you do as well.

 

[Silent Earth]

Ok Northern Raider, I'm going to squash this right now before this comes to more back and forth than it was meant to. Honestly I was having a bit of fun with the phrase. Having seen war, I have no wish to see devastation like that. I don't disagree that governments pick sides and "freedom fighter" and "terrorist" depend on who's saying what. I study my history, as I'm sure you do as well.

Ooops my bad WH, I DID read your post as tongue in cheek but did not emphasise my response as also being light hearted, sorry bout that, I cannot actually imagine any sane prepper wanting to use nukes on anything................................ cept perhaps Texans on nuking Kalifornia

did I just use SANE, PREPPER and Texans in the same sentence !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Old Seer]

So, like a terrorist attack or a plant meltdown because Homer fell asleep? Makes sense to me. Not sure of everyone else's take on this. I think humans as a whole are a good hearted and well-intentioned bunch. Still, I do think that it's most likely going to be a man made disaster that send us(My family) out to the wilds. We live near DC, so obviously the never-ending threat of terrorism looms, as does the overly dense populace, which makes it more likely that one of us will "Screw the pooch" and cause some unbelievable crisis by accident. Thoughts?

I haven't been on the forums for a while but---has anyone thought of--failure of religion. What happens if the Pope and religions in general are shown wrong. Would it cause an eventual societal catastrophe. If religion fails so also will central government, as both do the same which is control the masses. Religion and Civil governments exist for the same purpose---to control people, so then, both are governments. Neither can govern differently then the other as each must use the same criteria to govern. What thinketh ye.