Electric Cars

[Mountain trapper]

Do the EV enthusiasts realize that the government will tax them on a per mile basis, to make up for what they're not paying in road tax? I really don't know where the savings is on an EV.

 

[DrHenley]

They sure are! Saw where a ship with hundreds of German cars…BMW, Porche, Mercedes and Audi…caught on fire. They could not get the fire out for 7 days because of some cars burning that had lithium ion batteries! After they did get the fire out the ship was being towed back to a port in the Azures, but it sank!

That was the Felicity Ace.

 

[EastenerWesterner]

Do the EV enthusiasts realize that the government will tax them on a per mile basis, to make up for what they're not paying in road tax? I really don't know where the savings is on an EV.

Some states charge an additional fee on registration to cover it.

 

[Mountain trapper]

Some states charge an additional fee on registration to cover it.

And some are planing on adding a fee for each mile driven. EV's aren't paying their share of road maintenance and construction costs. At least according to their reasoning.

 

[EastenerWesterner]

And some are planing on adding a fee for each mile driven. EV's aren't paying their share of road maintenance and construction costs. At least according to their reasoning.

MI comes to mind with the 400 fee. I think several other blue states followed including Delaware I believe.
Do you see the pattern?
I would hate to be that little old lady in Pasadena MI (don’t know if that’s a town, but you catch my drift) that has to pay an extra 400 a year for a normal 100 a year in gas taxes.

 

[Dave2001]

They sure are! Saw where a ship with hundreds of German cars…BMW, Porche, Mercedes and Audi…caught on fire. They could not get the fire out for 7 days because of some cars burning that had lithium ion batteries! After they did get the fire out the ship was being towed back to a port in the Azures, but it sank!

Im hoping we never have to respond to a wreck call with an entrapped victim in an EV vehicle,

 

[user 7650]

I wish you the best of luck. If you think electric cars are the way to go then by all means, I don’t, and neither does anyone else I know, or have trained with. Best of luck and hope it works out for you; however, I would probably reconsider.

 

[Dave2001]

I wish you the best of luck. If you think electric cars are the way to go then by all means, I don’t, and neither does anyone else I know, or have trained with. Best of luck and hope it works out for you; however, I would probably reconsider.

I agree with you, i wouldnt have one of those bombs on wheels, BICRAP and cronys should have to pay for every fire and death they have caused! SEND the bill to AOC and group too!!!

 

[DrHenley]

https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2023/0...power-evs-has-one-glaring-shortcoming-n527352

What we’re seeing here is the head-on collision of two bad pieces of policy that will crash into each other in barely a decade. One is the ban on gas-powered vehicles and the other is the state’s mandate that all power produced in California must come from renewable sources by 2045. As the linked report notes, industry officials were “surprised” by the announcement that there would be sufficient electricity to charge a fleet of vehicles that size when the state can barely avoid rolling blackouts today during the summer and autumn months today.​

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In order to reach that goal, California would need to immediately begin constructing enough solar and wind plants to literally triple the amount of electricity that is currently being generated. That means that they would need to put up new wind farms and solar plants at roughly five times the rate they have been able to build them over the past ten years.​

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Nobody thinks that can actually happen. Both rising prices and supply chain shortages have raised costs and delayed the development of new wind farms over the past two years. This trend is projected to continue.​

 

[DrHenley]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/explod...hium-batteries-are-confounding-fire-rcna65739

 

[dicksteel]

 

[DrHenley]

That guy in the second video is a complete moron. I mean he is a complete moron even by California standards, which is even worse.

 

[DrHenley]

Miami Herald no less. The MSM may be catching on!
https://www.miamiherald.com/contributor-content/article272574443.htmlElectric Vehicles and the Untold Secret: Are They Actually Worse For The Environment and More Dangerous Than Gas?

 

[user 6208]

A horsepower is a horsepower is a horsepower. Nothing is free.

 

[DrHenley]

https://abcnews.go.com/Business/bro...y-charging-electric-vehicle/story?id=97389275

 

[DrHenley]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/e-bike-battery-fires-are-soaring-especially-in-new-york-a3c1e45c

 

[Mountain trapper]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/e-bike-battery-fires-are-soaring-especially-in-new-york-a3c1e45c

Don't these things have any safety cut out features for overheating or overcharge conditions?

 

[user 6208]

Don't these things have any safety cut out features for overheating or overcharge conditions?

Lithium batteries that I've worked with had on-board electronics to supervise power egress. But if that PCB fails, all bets are off.

I'm assuming the supervisor circuit board is failing in these cases. But with such a hot fire, there's no chance for a post-mortem.

 

[DrHenley]

I'll bet the e-bike manufacturers went cheap on the battery safety circuits and left them out. It's just an e-bike.

 

[GeorgiaPeachie]

 

[GeorgiaPeachie]

 

[DrHenley]

Oh, that good ol' Law of Unintended Consequences....
https://reason.com/2023/03/24/the-i...screwing-up-the-market-for-electric-vehicles/

The Inflation Reduction Act Is Screwing Up the Market for Electric Vehicles​

 

[user 7704]

This crazy idea of converting the military to all electric vehicles is clearly not feasible. Throw the grid switch or Set off an EMP, etc is all it would take to cripple every vehicle. Where would they be charged? Maybe putting a gas operated generator on a flat bed and let it follow the vehicles. That is, until the generator runs dry.

 

[poltiregist]

Wimpy vehicles are made for wimpy people .

 

[Markcl]

The people in power don’t consern themselves with outcome. It is the 30 second sound bite that buys them the next vote that counts.

 

[Mountain trapper]

In the new woke world we won't need a strong military or strong men. Just a rainbow of men in name only.

 

[Mountain Dragon]

I still believe in Darwins Theory. Even something gone wrong the last few years.

 

[rainingcatzanddogs]

In the new woke world we won't need a strong military or strong men. Just a rainbow of men in name only.

Or a military where AI has replaced the need for Generals, NCO's and grunts.

 

[Mountain Dragon]

In the new woke world we won't need a strong military or strong men. Just a rainbow of men in name only.

I seriously wait for the day when our troops are on the battlefield in rainbow camo and skirts, fighting with cottonballs against papertanks...

Popcorn anyone?

 

[Oddcaliber]

Or a military where AI has replaced the need for Generals, NCO's and grunts.

We may not always need Generals but there is always a need for grunts.