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Interesting article, we could keep stuff in it like a radio etc-

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Here's re-run of a post i did in another thread-
Speaking of blackouts and stuff, if the bad guys launch nukes with a high EMP output we'll all be in the dark in more ways than one.
For examp, the USA's 'Starfish Prime' nuke test in 1962 frazzled electronics in Hawaii-
WIKI-
"Starfish Prime caused an electromagnetic pulse (EMP) that was far larger than expected..the pulse caused electrical damage in Hawaii, about 900 miles away from the detonation point, knocking out about 300 streetlights, setting off numerous burglar alarms, and damaging a telephone company microwave link.. shutting down telephone calls from Kauai to the other Hawaiian islands"
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Starfish Prime - Wikipedia


en.wikipedia.org
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Below: very pretty, the Starfish Prime blast seen from Honolulu strutting its stuff 900 miles away at 250 miles altitude-

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Speaking of "many types" of EMP, sometime in the 70s I was sitting in a 67 Mustang convertible, in Poquoson, Va....probably somewhere I wasn't supposed to be, listening to music on the radio, when what I think was an A10 Warthog, (maybe from Norfolk Naval Station?) flew in low, almost directly over me and instantly my radio made a pop sound and never worked again! I got out of there fast, (my Mustang engine still started!) but not too fast, because the road I was on had huge potholes, some large enough to swallow a motorcycle or compact car! I never went back there, but I've always wondered if that plane had some microwave or mini EMP device that was designed to knock out enemy communications or radar in advance of other planes? Or was it just coincidence?
That plane was not an A10. It was an Electronic Warfare plane emitting Electronic Countermeasures. Probably Intruder or similar. The Navy does not fly A10's
 
You will end up not needing even working devices when the power grid, radio masts and transformers are grilled by the EMP.

Learn to survive without technology, you will be one step further than if you still cry after the crap that no longer works.
SOTU speech tonight.
Just in case Russia, China, North Korea, Iran, or some other country/group that thinks we are weak due to our leadership... set off one of these tonight...I've learned a lot from you all.
Pray for our troops.
Many thanks to you all,
Erqueen75
 
SOTU speech tonight.
Just in case Russia, China, North Korea, Iran, or some other country/group that thinks we are weak due to our leadership... set off one of these tonight...I've learned a lot from you all.
Pray for our troops.
Many thanks to you all,
Erqueen75
Missed you here!!!
 
Moved to North Carolina, a military town; so although I believe being prepared, educated, and physically conditioned for a SHTF or TEOTWAWKI event... I'm a sitting duck here. Not as bad as some target sites, but bad enough. But I am near my family, and that's all that matters.
Still love popping on and reading the scuttlebutt though!!!
I love this country, but how it has changed for the ABSOLUTE WORST. It is almost paralyzing to think how weak this counter-culture society has made us appear on the world stage. 2024, come Hell or high water, we will return to an America we can all be proud of, again. We must.

Most sincere,
Pray for our troops
Erqueen75:USA:
 
Moved to North Carolina, a military town; so although I believe being prepared, educated, and physically conditioned for a SHTF or TEOTWAWKI event... I'm a sitting duck here. Not as bad as some target sites, but bad enough. But I am near my family, and that's all that matters.
Still love popping on and reading the scuttlebutt though!!!
I love this country, but how it has changed for the ABSOLUTE WORST. It is almost paralyzing to think how weak this counter-culture society has made us appear on the world stage. 2024, come Hell or high water, we will return to an America we can all be proud of, again. We must.

Most sincere,
Pray for our troops
Erqueen75:USA:
Miss your input lady.
 
If anyone wants to know how to protect from EMP, CME, I have a home electrical serviceprotected, a home generator, a home solar system and vehicles protected with EMP Shield. I know how they work and what's protected, not protected and what doesn't need protecting. Just ask.
 
If anyone wants to know how to protect from EMP, CME, I have a home electrical serviceprotected, a home generator, a home solar system and vehicles protected with EMP Shield. I know how they work and what's protected, not protected and what doesn't need protecting. Just ask.
How could I protect my gasoline powered electricity generator ? Actually I don't even know if it would be vulnerable to an EMP /CME .
 
How could I protect my gasoline powered electricity generator ? Actually I don't even know if it would be vulnerable to an EMP /CME .

What model is it? If it has an electronic start, then that would need protecting. If it's an old pull start model with no electronics, then your ok.
 
@Proud Prepper In a previous conversation, you had suggested a Shield on the DC side and AC side of the Gen. The shields would be more than the Gen cost.
I am sold on a Shield but in the current situation don‘t see it working. 200A service split on outside, 100 Amp panels on either side of the house. No room in one box, plenty in the other.
New place I could see it working. Single box 200a with room.
 
@Proud Prepper In a previous conversation, you had suggested a Shield on the DC side and AC side of the Gen. The shields would be more than the Gen cost.
I am sold on a Shield but in the current situation don‘t see it working. 200A service split on outside, 100 Amp panels on either side of the house. No room in one box, plenty in the other.
New place I could see it working. Single box 200a with room.

The DC side is for the electric starter powered by the battery on the home generator that does not have a pull start and the ac emp shield is to protect the digital electronics in the gen. If your generator is not electronic and has a pull starter no EMP shield is needed for your battery and starter, they dont need to work for the generator to be operational. You would only need to protect everything connected to your home wiring using an EMP shield on your 200amp breaker panel.

After an EMP you connect your generator to your home breaker panel that has a home emp shield and the generator then becomes protected with everything else plugged into that electrical system. The only thing not protected is your electronic starter that is connected to your non protected 12v battery.

To protect my $4500 generac it cost me about $625 for both the emp shields.
 
The DC side is for the electric starter powered by the battery on the home generator that does not have a pull start and the ac emp shield is to protect the digital electronics in the gen. If your generator is not electronic and has a pull starter no EMP shield is needed for your battery and starter, they dont need to work for the generator to be operational. You would only need to protect everything connected to your home wiring using an EMP shield on your 200amp breaker panel.

After an EMP you connect your generator to your home breaker panel that has a home emp shield and the generator then becomes protected with everything else plugged into that electrical system. The only thing not protected is your electronic starter that is connected to your non protected 12v battery.
Trying to get your explanations out to everyone.

The shields for that gen cost about as much as my 7500 dual fuel. But I have the pull start. Trying to put it into a budget for what they can do.
 
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Trying to get your explanations out to everyone.

The shields for that gen cost about as much as my 7500 dual fuel. But I have the pull start. Trying to put it into a budget for what they can do.

For that generator you wouldn't necessarily need an emp shield. Just one for your house panel.
 
Wouldn't any kind of generator have to have some kind of electronics to regulate the voltage? I ask because I really don't know how a generator does that, I just know it has to give it more gas when the load increases.
 
Wouldn't any kind of generator have to have some kind of electronics to regulate the voltage? I ask because I really don't know how a generator does that, I just know it has to give it more gas when the load increases.
There's many variables. EMP types and strengths. How harder or vulnerable your equipment is.

The more modern and advanced the more electronics and the greater risks, but if there not plugged in or being used only a high energy EMP will make it irreparable. The first thing to go would be a an electronic starter and digital control module. A pull starter is ideal and Xtra protected parts would be useful.

Many models have pre-installed interference suppressor inside it that likely protects the alternator, engine and outlets from low and medium EMP. Without a EMP shield or a faraday cage your taking a chance. You have to determine your Risk vs. Reward and if your willing to take a chance.

What about what your generator is going to provide electricity for? Do those things still work? Does your home wiring, breakers and panel still function?
 
Speaking of "many types" of EMP, sometime in the 70s I was sitting in a 67 Mustang convertible, in Poquoson, Va....probably somewhere I wasn't supposed to be, listening to music on the radio, when what I think was an A10 Warthog, (maybe from Norfolk Naval Station?) flew in low, almost directly over me and instantly my radio made a pop sound and never worked again! I got out of there fast, (my Mustang engine still started!) but not too fast, because the road I was on had huge potholes, some large enough to swallow a motorcycle or compact car! I never went back there, but I've always wondered if that plane had some microwave or mini EMP device that was designed to knock out enemy communications or radar in advance of other planes? Or was it just coincidence?
That was most likely an Intruder equipped with radar jamming equipment or Electronic Warfare Equipment. A-10's are ground attack support aircraft.
 
That was most likely an Intruder equipped with radar jamming equipment or Electronic Warfare Equipment. A-10's are ground attack support aircraft.
Wow, I think you're right. It was the big, rounded nose I remembered.
Probably an A-6 Intruder or an EA-6B Prowler maybe from Marine Corps Air Station Cherry Point, NC.
 
@Proud Prepper In a previous conversation, you had suggested a Shield on the DC side and AC side of the Gen. The shields would be more than the Gen cost.
I am sold on a Shield but in the current situation don‘t see it working. 200A service split on outside, 100 Amp panels on either side of the house. No room in one box, plenty in the other.
New place I could see it working. Single box 200a with room.

It doesn't matter if the shield cost as much or more than the generator. Is the total cost worth it to you to have that electricity generation after an EMP or power surges?

Each unit is made to protect a certain operational voltage. What do you not see working? They can be mounted on the outside of a box, don't need room inside.

You can call them and consult with them on what you need to protect your system.
 
The other thing is... If there really is an heavy EMP, for how long last the fuel for your generator?
Depends where the EMP hits our civilisation and how heavy - but i don't believe all the oil raffineries are EMP protected. And of course none of the trucks who transport the fuels.
And IF they are still working after an EMP i don't think the Military and the Government are willing to share with you.

An generator makes sense by an brown- or blackout for a few hours up to one, maybe two weeks. If it ladts longer i won't have the only illuminated house in the street anyway.
 
It doesn't matter if the shield cost as much or more than the generator. Is the total cost worth it to you to have that electricity generation after an EMP or power surges?

Each unit is made to protect a certain operational voltage. What do you not see working? They can be mounted on the outside of a box, don't need room inside.

You can call them and consult with them on what you need to protect your system.
I am dealing with a 70s off grid house that finally got power in the mid 90s. So I have a bit of a weird set up

From their installation instructions, I have an issue with #5. Double tap Shield with branch circuit. BIG NO NO in the 3 states i have lived in. Building and home inspectors put this as their number 1 look for.

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The way around that is to put on its own breakers. I have room in one of my 100A panels. But absolutely no space in the other. From an outside box, they are separate systems

I won’t have an issue with new place adding new breakers
 
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