Homeless situation...It is "NOT" going away. Could you "survive".?

[Rick]

I often thought about being able to do it.
As long as I still have my truck I can sleep in that with my sleeping bag.
Gym membership would be a must.

 

[UserNameTaken]

Good. We get squatters occasionally around here living on Forest Service lands. They don't stay very long before the Forest Service runs them off. I've called on them a few times myself. I don't think anyone would care if these people left a clean camp, but they don't. They leave trash and garbage all over the area.

Yeah, I hear you. That is a big problem. The garbage. When we camped out all summer (and fall) by the stream we kept and left our camp spotless. It is still spotless, 40 years later. I took my wife there last year. Back then there were no time limits. The local ranger knew we were there, and why. He checked on us a few times, brought us pizza a couple of times, and helped me get my first hunting license. I think he felt bad for us.

I think maybe what @Sourdough is saying is we shouldn't be too quick to judge. Though it's pretty easy to tell the difference between a homeless druggie who doesn't give a crap, and someone hiking the Pacific Crest Trail.

 

[UserNameTaken]

Oops double post

 

[elkhound]

Worst Homelessness Crisis Ever!​

article from economic collapse blog via zerohedge

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/worst-homelessness-crisis-ever

 

[Supervisor42]

Worst Homelessness Crisis Ever!

article from economic collapse blog via zerohedge

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/worst-homelessness-crisis-ever

Couldn't have anything to do with the million or so immigrants that crossed our southern border in the past year, and are still unemployed? Oh Noooo!
ZH:

In fact, in 13 communities that have been heavily impacted by migration, “family homelessness more than doubled”…

Migration had a particularly notable impact on family homelessness, which rose 39% from 2023 to 2024, according to the report. In the 13 communities that reported being affected by migration, family homelessness more than doubled.

They are not 'homeless Americans'.
I actually feel bad for them because they were conned into going to the "Big Rich Cities", only to find there were no jobs for unskilled labor.

 

[Peanut]

To survive being homeless now… Not only should we judge, we should do so quickly. And if there’s doubt err on the side that keeps you safe. I'd go further... Everyone you meet should be viewed as a threat until they prove otherwise.

Pretending that an inordinate percentage of the homeless are not a threat is the quickest way to die, imho!

 

[Dave2001]

The cool thing about this country is that you're not forced to rent anything. Or to buy anything. Just say no.

Our county property taxes have gotten so high here it really dont pay to own very much at all

 

[Haertig]

Municipalities are begining to incarcerate the poor for the CRIME of SLEEPING in public, or on public land. It is a human rights violation to make SLEEPING illegal. But nobody cares.

Sleeping in public areas is one thing. Setting up your homestead - be that a dilapidated tent, cardboard structure, or whatever - with the intention of making that your semi-permanent home is a totally different thing.

They are using the law to clear camps and old motor homes of the poor - but not the guy in his 2 million dollar Prevost motor home at the rest stop.

They probably do that because the guy in the Prevost has stopped temporarily at a rest stop with the intention of resting for a while and then moving on. That's what rest stops are designed for. Compare that to someone parking - and staying - directly in front of your house in something that probably only moves when it is towed, is a safety hazard, and may even spill garbage out the back while it's being towed. The two scenarios you described are not even remotely close to one another.

 

[Haertig]

So what's wrong with that? I think living in a nice warm house, without drug, alcohol or mental problems is far superior to living like a bum in the gutters.

I agree with what you said above. I like living in that same nice warm house that you do. Only a dolt would denigrate it as "displaying superiority" for wanting to live that way. IMHO, every normal person does.

 

[Amish Heart]

Our county property taxes have gotten so high here it really dont pay to own very much at all

Mostly I was posting to the new poster that I quoted. I read his blog thingy he linked and he doesn't like renting or captialism. So that's why I said that he could just say no and not rent anything.
Our property taxes are stupid high, too. Makes me mad because our farm and property are all paid off. The taxes are as bad as having a mortgage.

 

[Dave2001]

Mostly I was posting to the new poster that I quoted. I read his blog thingy he linked and he doesn't like renting or captialism. So that's why I said that he could just say no and not rent anything.
Our property taxes are stupid high, too. Makes me mad because our farm and property are all paid off. The taxes are as bad as having a mortgage.

Had to sell property i inherited and been in my family for years cause i couldnt afford the property taxes, same about buying a new car, average cost of a new car here would require over 1240.00 in property taxes alone

 

[Amish Heart]

Sounds like our state. New car registration is ridiculous. But I don't plan on ever buying a new one again. Our property taxes are a bit over $500 a month. That's just nuts. That's like rent. Glad we don't have a mortgage, too.

 

[Peanut]

My family has been on this farm since the 1880's. Yet taxes are exactly what's going to force me to sell in just a few short years.

 

[montanabill]

Sounds like our state. New car registration is ridiculous. But I don't plan on ever buying a new one again. Our property taxes are a bit over $500 a month. That's just nuts. That's like rent. Glad we don't have a mortgage, too.

Taxes and insurance on our one acre and rundown 70's house is $500 a month...luckily we don't live in the small town or it would be more.. Montana doesn't have sales tax so they get all they can with a state income tax and property tax..

 

[Amish Heart]

Goofed. Husband says it's $300 a month. Still too much. We have state tax. That's terrible on one acre, Montanabill. We have a big farmhouse, rundown, built in 1908 on 23 acres. They do raise it every year. It was half that, not long ago.

 

[ClemKadiddlehopper]

My property tax is $100 a year. It's why I am unlikely to move again. My farm used to be around $400 a month. Property tax is how they plan to make us all homeless.

In answer to Sourdough's op, yes I could survive being homeless if I were rural enough; not so much in the city. Either way, at my age it would suck.

 

[Pearl]

Let's all be extremely thankful Trump is taking the reins!! We would have a Federal property tax if Obama stayed in control! Not to mention unrealized capital gains! They would take our properties! Homelessness was closer than we thought, or that many thought!

 

[poltiregist]

I had a house that I abandoned " a fairly decent house and not that old " as I started over in another state with my prepper endeavors . The abandoned house was on inherited family land , so did not want to sell in respect to other family members . However soon squatter problems arouse . I had the local volunteer fire department burn it to the ground to get rid of homeless squatters . -- Of interest perhaps to some , I believe at one point that I had a coven of witches taking it over as they would dance around in the front yard around a live oak tree that I had planted that I had been given , deriving from a place called the devils backbone . I am guessing naked . I thumbed through one of the witch manuals that was inside my house which only confirmed what I had already concluded .

 

[TBob]

SPECIAL INSTRUCTIONS: No rants about what a superior human you are. When I see people "blanket" trashing homeless people. I figure that they consider themselves to be vastly superior.

I have never understood how some have zero empathy and consider themselves superior to those homeless. Yes, a fair amount of homeless have drug and/or alcohol abuse issues. I would be willing to bet that on a percentage bases, people living in safe homes have on percentage bases much higher percentage of substance (alcohol & drugs) abuse.

Translated living in a home and safe in that home "DOES NOT" mean drugs and alcohol are never abused. So, I am asking nicely that you not turn this thread into your negative opinion of homelessness.

Can you honestly assess your personal ability to function and survive being homeless. I don't know why but I find myself asking that question a lot.

Speak to anything about homelessness other than how superior you are as a human.

https://www.alaskasnewssource.com/2024/12/27/us-homelessness-spikes-18-look-alaskas-numbers/

Was homeless by choice for many years. Yeah..not a problem if I had to do it alone..but I have a family now..1 of the 2 could handle it..1 could not.

 

[Michele My Belle]

Let's all be extremely thankful Trump is taking the reins!! We would have a Federal property tax if Obama stayed in control! Not to mention unrealized capital gains! They would take our properties! Homelessness was closer than we thought, or that many thought!

Trump also removed the Obama PENALTY for not signing up for healthinsurance/Obamacare, or proving you have it.
(Or as I refer to him - - Obummer.)

 

[montanabill]

Trump also removed the Obama PENALTY for not signing up for healthinsurance/Obamacare, or proving you have it.
(Or as I refer to him - - Obummer.)

My wife's supplemental insurance for medicare charges us $26 a month since we didn't have health insurance for a while before we qualified for medicare.... we pay this forever.

 

[Michele My Belle]

My wife's supplemental insurance for medicare charges us $26 a month since we didn't have health insurance for a while before we qualified for medicare.... we pay this forever.

Not sure if Doge is going to scrap the whole system(s) or part of it and re-write some things...but plenty of regulations which have been written make zero sense. And they know it.

 

[montanabill]

Had the first fire dept call out on our little homeless camp nearby. about 20 campers and motorhomes and some started sporting smokestacks sticking out windows or roof vents for their wood stoves.. I will try to get some photos.....many of these folks work but spend their wages on other things..

 

[Steve_In_29]

My family was homeless for a couple months when I was a teen. Hurricane Agnes (1972) flooded us out in NE PA and we went to live with our aunt and uncle in NJ until things got slightly back to normal and my dad could find us another place to live in PA.