How Long Would Society Last During a Total Grid Collapse?

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your behind the times, we now have a King.
Cousin Charlie got the throne at last eh? good for him. I don't give a crap about what they say is important on TV anymore. I missed it.
Now if you guys took your country back, I'd notice!
Know what's Ironic as hell? the very things that made us bad subjects of the crown, now
make us bad Americans.
We are not property.
We speak our mind.
We tend to our own defense and until recently, our own livelihood.
and we don't do as we're told. Hell. My state of Georgia was a penal colony! We're like Australia without something trying to kill you every thirty feet. LOL

Now I gently tweaked your nose, I can tell something about you, You'd be right at home with a cabin, a shotgun, a rifle, and a 4-wheel drive skinning dinner and growing some crops. Lots of us in here are like that or have lived like that and miss it. We're far from what they call "ignorant hillbillies" Most are scholars or trained in high-paying skills. When you guys think of Americans, I bet you think of city trash. You should visit us "flyover people" and Have a few beers, go to a church picnic, catch some fish, and try some BBQ, You might not go home! We're what you were 50 years ago before your government decided it was your mother, and when push comes to shove, WE are the ones who have England's back in a fight, NOT those ******* in DC!
 
Some people will be surprised at how quickly the bad guys among their community start to use violence to get what they have always coveted (but the ROL prevented them from taking).

Best indication of who these will be, are the people ALREADY doing it.
I advise anyone who can, to become a volunteer FF/EMT in their district. You find out real quick who your local scumbags are.
 
Cousin Charlie got the throne at last eh? good for him. I don't give a crap about what they say is important on TV anymore. I missed it.
Now if you guys took your country back, I'd notice!
Know what's Ironic as hell? the very things that made us bad subjects of the crown, now
make us bad Americans.
We are not property.
We speak our mind.
We tend to our own defense and until recently, our own livelihood.
and we don't do as we're told. Hell. My state of Georgia was a penal colony! We're like Australia without something trying to kill you every thirty feet. LOL

Now I gently tweaked your nose, I can tell something about you, You'd be right at home with a cabin, a shotgun, a rifle, and a 4-wheel drive skinning dinner and growing some crops. Lots of us in here are like that or have lived like that and miss it. We're far from what they call "ignorant hillbillies" Most are scholars or trained in high-paying skills. When you guys think of Americans, I bet you think of city trash. You should visit us "flyover people" and Have a few beers, go to a church picnic, catch some fish, and try some BBQ, You might not go home! We're what you were 50 years ago before your government decided it was your mother, and when push comes to shove, WE are the ones who have England's back in a fight, NOT those ******* in DC!
I cant decide if your having a go at me or whether that last piece is a complement.
I can tell you I'm nothing like those city folk although I did live in a city in my younger days, luckily I married a country girl and we left the city a quarter of a century ago.
I dont really think anything about Americans, I dont know enough to form an opinion.
 
I cant decide if your having a go at me or whether that last piece is a complement.
I can tell you I'm nothing like those city folk although I did live in a city in my younger days, luckily I married a country girl and we left the city a quarter of a century ago.
I dont really think anything about Americans, I dont know enough to form an opinion.
Not a go, just a friendly tweak, and yes, I complimented you. Big city types are what people like us get stereotyped as when others think of an "American" When in fact, they're all a bunch of "******s"
Who couldn't find their arse with both hands and a road map. We're real America. Be chill fellow pagan, you'll fit right in here.
 
Not a go, just a friendly tweak, and yes, I complimented you. Big city types are what people like us get stereotyped as when others think of an "American" When in fact, they're all a bunch of "******s"
Who couldn't find their arse with both hands and a road map. We're real America. Be chill fellow pagan, you'll fit right in here.
thats pretty much how I feel about British city dwellers, we call them Sheeple.
 
We're very little alike until you get out into the rural areas, then we're hard to tell apart.
Condolences on your uncles.
we do have a few older people who we might call characters but they are slowly dying out and the younger generation arent anything like them.
my uncles have been gone for a few years now, it wasnt recent.
 
Getting back to the subject of the thread.........society will last between a few hours and a few weeks.

How long it will last in your location depends upon:
  1. Population density
  2. Productivity balance - is your area a net importer or exporter of resources - but virtually no areas are genuinely independent
  3. The degree of community spirit/cohesiveness - but this is a two edged sword - communities that are very cohesive usually don't make it easy to maintain individual OPSEC. Cohesiveness is great in a mild crisis but a potential liability in a severe crisis
  4. How close your area is to anarchy in normal times - as I posted before in this thread, most people overestimate how far people are from anarchy in normal times - in the same way they overestimate the robustness of human systems
  5. How many really angry people there are in your area
  6. How long it takes for people around you to work out that the ROL is gone and to assess/understand that and the grid are not coming back
  7. The effects of cascading failed systems - Information, water, sewage, emergency response, medical, prison breaks, supply chains, communications
  8. How long it takes for people around you to get tired, thirsty, hungry, dirty, injured, sick......
  9. How long it takes for those on psych meds to run out and then flip out
  10. How many people there are within walking/driving distance of where you are, that think your area will still have food, water and whatever else they need
  11. How many people are aware of your area - having visited before as a tourist or whatever
  12. Whether your area is on the way between places that refugees will be going from and to
  13. The time of the year the crisis strikes (and the weather at that time)
  14. How many trigger and step events occur that break people out of the normal way of thinking and result in the breakdown of morality - which is mostly about what people see and do for the first time. Plenty of research has shown that when people see others do immoral/abnormal things, they very quickly start doing those same things (the new normal).
  15. Whether people try to re-establish some sort of improvised law enforcement
  16. Gang activity
  17. Settling of old scores
  18. Government efforts to resist the collapse
  19. Luck - good and bad
 
like i said...what society....just because its not a modern one with electric doesnt mean afterwards wont be..i mean a horse mounted horde out of the east is still a society.

maybe in 500 years when all resources(gas and coal etc) are gone we will see horse mounted Navajo/Apache/Blackfoot/Cherokee again...and more!

buffalo running the grass prairies again!!

salmon in west running up streams and atlantic salmon in east like it use to be.
 
Medical I'm okay, reasonably fit for my age, in better condition than some even 25 years younger, we have an Obesity crisis over here.
I've been with the same Dentist for over 10 years but nobody is taking on new clients at the moment.
I was going to have my remaining teeth(7) removed , I dont want dentures, but Dentist can save them for now. I have a dental check up once a year.
 
We have twenty dentists here, they want to be paid when the job is done and they don't like Medicare, no matter what the laws say, they loophole out. and they're afraid to give you ANY medication, we have so many here selling dope out the back door or "Pill milling" the fed dropped the hammer on them!

Thank the gods for the black market!
 
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we have basic health care here which is free at the point of need, paid for by taxation, if anyone needs more than that they have to go private and pay for it themselves, wife has a private dentist because she wanted more than the basic, me I'm happy with just the basics.
 
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