Rant for the Day (keep it clean)

[Cascadian]

One of them may have a police scanner or some sort of app. That can be how a neighbor knows to when act normal all of a sudden.

 

[UrbanHunter]

On the dog barking we had a beagle that would drive you crazy barking, we put one of those shock collars that only go off when they bark. The first time it zapped her, she did a full back flip (scared her a lot). It didn't take long (a day) for her to learn not to bark when the collar was on, take it off and she went back to barking.... After she had worn it for over a year, we took it off and she went right back to barking. Put it back on her with no battery and she was silent..... Eventually she didn't need the collar at all but it took several years.

 

[VThillman]

I lived in a building of townhouses. Neighbor would come home after work around 11 pm and crank up the music and wake up my then sleeping young child. Neighbor was impossible to deal with, would just yell at me when I told her she woke up my child with her loud music. I ended up calling it in over and over again. A neighbor had a police scanner and would inform her when the police were on the way. When the police got there, all was quiet. As soon as they were gone, up went the music and the crying child. This went on for a long time, months. I don't understand why people have to act like this.

Dire Straits album woke my daughter up night after night.

Maybe she is a mental defective, Weedy. In the urban anthill to come, she would be a defective ant, and a soldier ant would come to remove her.

 

[Double R]

I lived in a building of townhouses. Neighbor would come home after work around 11 pm and crank up the music and wake up my then sleeping young child. Neighbor was impossible to deal with, would just yell at me when I told her she woke up my child with her loud music. I ended up calling it in over and over again. A neighbor had a police scanner and would inform her when the police were on the way. When the police got there, all was quiet. As soon as they were gone, up went the music and the crying child. This went on for a long time, months. I don't understand why people have to act like this.

Dire Straits album woke my daughter up night after night.

That’s unreal. This is the same house we’ve been dealing with music, excessive bass, constant burning out trucks and shooting (no safe place there to shoot) all hours of the day and night for almost 2 1/2 years now. Started with druggies who ran off the night before a raid and then continues with the new family who moved in after. I’ve spoken to the husband who apologizes then the next day it would continue. I finally started calling the sheriff and CHP when it got really bad. They would usually have stopped by the time the sheriff would arrive due to the long delays in them coming. The renter husband has been gone since they clearly have been split for around 2 months maybe. In that time we got a few weeks of peace then this guy showed up in the back and started in with the screaming all night keeping me up. I just tried to ignore it for a few weeks but it kept getting louder and louder and running til morning. Tried to be nice and ask to stop and Its gone from there.

 

[Weedygarden]

That’s unreal. This is the same house we’ve been dealing with music, excessive bass, constant burning out trucks and shooting (no safe place there to shoot) all hours of the day and night for almost 2 1/2 years now. Started with druggies who ran off the night before a raid and then continues with the new family who moved in after. I’ve spoken to the husband who apologizes then the next day it would continue. I finally started calling the sheriff and CHP when it got really bad. They would usually have stopped by the time the sheriff would arrive due to the long delays in them coming. The renter husband has been gone since they clearly have been split for around 2 months maybe. In that time we got a few weeks of peace then this guy showed up in the back and started in with the screaming all night keeping me up. I just tried to ignore it for a few weeks but it kept getting louder and louder and running til morning. Tried to be nice and ask to stop and Its gone from there.

I wonder if they have an informer, someone who is tipping them off?

I know a couple, both retired lawyers who live in the inner city. There was a known drug house about a block from where they live. When things were going on that were worthy of being reported, neighbors would call it in. I have no idea how long this went on, likely years. What the upstanding people in the neighborhood didn't know was that when they called in activity, they were often talking to someone who would then let the people in the drug house know that there had been a call and that police were on their way. I don't know how it finally all changed, but it did.

 

[Double R]

I wonder if they have an informer, someone who is tipping them off?

I know a couple, both retired lawyers who live in the inner city. There was a known drug house about a block from where they live. When things were going on that were worthy of being reported, neighbors would call it in. I have no idea how long this went on, likely years. What the upstanding people in the neighborhood didn't know was that when they called in activity, they were often talking to someone who would then let the people in the drug house know that there had been a call and that police were on their way. I don't know how it finally all changed, but it did.

The drug people definitely were tipped off before the raid. I’m not convinced on this group. It is possible of course.

 

[winds-of-change]

3:50am and he’s going on angry rants again. This time not at the top of his lungs and from what i can hear not anything towards me but loud enough to be annoying in the house. Renter husband clearly has either left or is asleep and not hearing him. Recording it for record so if this goes farther I have proof he really does do this at all hours of the night and morning. The thought of filing a restraining order is making me sick. If he can’t handle a simple please stop or shut up screamed at him or his family or whatever the husband is asking him to stop what will a restraining order do. I don’t know what to do at this point.

This sounds like an absolute nightmare for you.

 

[Double R]

This sounds like an absolute nightmare for you.

The nightmare continues. Waiting on the sheriffs. They called and talked to me but got a priority call and promised to come back afterward. I have him on recording screaming and cussing at me yet again. He said he will scream all night long as loud as he can. He screamed so loud his voice cut out. So I called again and kept recording. The renter (wife) just showed up and he instantly turned off the loud music and stopped even so much as talking. I heard her talking to him and he was just as nice and courteous as can be. Tells me he’s a friend or family of the renter husband not the wife. It wasn’t that kind of conversation. Also tells me he‘s not crazy. He’s doing all this calculated and he’s just not a nice man. Will update when the sheriff has been back again. I begged him to come by and listen to the recordings. Told him I no longer care if he knows I’m calling. He already is aggressive with me and the renter husband had already told him I'm the one that talked to him.
I just want to say thank you to all my friends here for the support, laughs and good ideas. If you all get tired of hearing this please just let me know so I stop posting about it. It’s just nice to have some sane support and I’m grateful for you all.

 

[Peanut]

Frankly I'm worried for your safety... Me, I'd be carrying inside as well as outside at this point. Sooner or later this guy will blow a gasket. I know CA is screwed up but at this point you'd be remiss not to have a loaded weapon in your pocket.

 

[Double R]

That’s the issue. I’m in CA.
I am armed day and night. Inside and out. Right next to the shower and only when my husband is home do I take one now. I am frankly scared of that exact thing. He gets more aggressive as the nights go on. Clearly he’s smart enough to know when to stop and to be very respectful to authorities etc.
I have no idea what to expect with a restraining order. Or even how it will effect me other than clearly financially. I don’t feel like I have a choice now but what is a piece of paper going to do when sheriffs are hours out. Sign

 

[Double R]

Talked again to the sheriff. He was very upfront. There is absolutely nothing they can do about this short of continuing to tell him to stop. When I get the order they can write him a ticket and nothing else. So this can just continue on forever with basically no way to stop it. Sheriff sounded frustrated too as he wished he could do something. Until he does something Violent we are out of luck. He said there is no law for him screaming and cussing all night.

 

[angie_nrs]

I'm so sorry you have to deal with this Double R. It must be exhausting.

Without knowing your situation it's hard to try and come up with solutions. Is there possibly any way you could hire someone to put up a wooden fense.....like in the show, Home Improvement.....just a little taller so that Wilson couldn't peek over the top? If nothing else, that might block some of the noise or force the idiot to yell louder so as to hopefully damage his vocal cords. Geez.....dude must be completely bored to waste his time doing this to you. It sounds like he needs a JOB! You may also save some money if you could put up a big brush pile on the property line, which would do the same as the fense on the cheap. Although, I don't know how much property you have there to work with, so I'm just throwing stuff out there.

Is there a way to fight fire with fire without him coming completely unhinged? A loud generator (vented towards his place) running between both properties? Yeah, it would take some fuel but it could give you some white noise so that you could sleep. Maybe making noise while HE tries to sleep would help......or make him completely lose his mind?

It's a tough situation for sure. Has he done this to other neighbors? If so, what was the point? Is he trying to get you to move? Is there any way to ask the renter why he's acting this way? Maybe ask her if there is some peaceful way to call a truce? What on earth does this guy want for all of his efforts? Is it an attention getting thing? Even most crazy people have a reason to put that much effort into annoying behavior.

 

[Double R]

I'm so sorry you have to deal with this Double R. It must be exhausting.

Without knowing your situation it's hard to try and come up with solutions. Is there possibly any way you could hire someone to put up a wooden fense.....like in the show, Home Improvement.....just a little taller so that Wilson couldn't peek over the top? If nothing else, that might block some of the noise or force the idiot to yell louder so as to hopefully damage his vocal cords. Geez.....dude must be completely bored to waste his time doing this to you. It sounds like he needs a JOB! You may also save some money if you could put up a big brush pile on the property line, which would do the same as the fense on the cheap. Although, I don't know how much property you have there to work with, so I'm just throwing stuff out there.

Is there a way to fight fire with fire without him coming completely unhinged? A loud generator (vented towards his place) running between both properties? Yeah, it would take some fuel but it could give you some white noise so that you could sleep. Maybe making noise while HE tries to sleep would help......or make him completely lose his mind?

It's a tough situation for sure. Has he done this to other neighbors? If so, what was the point? Is he trying to get you to move? Is there any way to ask the renter why he's acting this way? Maybe ask her if there is some peaceful way to call a truce? What on earth does this guy want for all of his efforts? Is it an attention getting thing? Even most crazy people have a reason to put that much effort into annoying behavior.

Unfortunately no a blocking fence is not an option. Way to far away between us. If we could we would have when that place sold and the troubles began before this “group”. From the sound last night he may damage his vocal cords. His voice had started skipping words when he’s screaming. He goes horse by morning usually he’s screamed to much so loudly.
No way to fight fire with fire. Asking him to stop screaming his songs all night and morning long is what set him off. Added fuel to the fire to where we’re at now by asking the renter to make him stop.
I spent weeks trying to sleep through the extremely loud “singing” with earplugs, fans going etc trying to block out the sound. He just progressively got louder to where it can’t be tuned out.
There’s no way to make noise his was that would disrupt him. Sound travels our way and there’s neighbors to the sides. He sleeps by day and is behind the house in an outbuilding. When he’s screaming he’s in the driveway doing so which is why it travels so well our way. Kind of hard to explain I guess. It’s a very open flat area.
He doesn’t want to be told what to do. He acts like a child honestly. He wants to make all the noise he wants and no one can tell him otherwise. We wonder if he’s not all there upstairs. He definitely has help of alcohol. He has no job. Just works on random cars back there. Doesn’t drive. Rides a bike when he leaves there or is transported by others. Think it really is just he doesn’t think he should do anything other than what he wants and he knows there’s no one who can make him do otherwise. It’s on the renters to make him leave at this point. He’s made it clear he won’t stop he will just stop while they are there which isn’t enough to give even a break. It’s very frustrating and definitely seems frustrating for the officers that can’t do a thing about it either. Welcome to California

 

[backlash]

Contact the property owner, not the renter. They may not know someone is living out back and put a stop to that.

 

[Terri9630]

@Guardian I’m afraid it will really set him off. The officer said they give him a paper if it’s approved. It appears to be extremely expensive also. Don’t know how it can effect me either. Going to do research tomorrow I guess. Things are just swirling in my head right now. Officer said it will be 7 days before the information on the guy is on file for me to get to do the order. I just don’t understand why he would still be allowed there when he clearly is causing issues. Neither renter can deny it at this point.

Complain to the property owner. If the guy isn't on the lease the owner can tell them he has to go.

 

[Terri9630]

Unfortunately no a blocking fence is not an option. Way to far away between us. If we could we would have when that place sold and the troubles began before this “group”. From the sound last night he may damage his vocal cords. His voice had started skipping words when he’s screaming. He goes horse by morning usually he’s screamed to much so loudly.
No way to fight fire with fire. Asking him to stop screaming his songs all night and morning long is what set him off. Added fuel to the fire to where we’re at now by asking the renter to make him stop.
I spent weeks trying to sleep through the extremely loud “singing” with earplugs, fans going etc trying to block out the sound. He just progressively got louder to where it can’t be tuned out.
There’s no way to make noise his was that would disrupt him. Sound travels our way and there’s neighbors to the sides. He sleeps by day and is behind the house in an outbuilding. When he’s screaming he’s in the driveway doing so which is why it travels so well our way. Kind of hard to explain I guess. It’s a very open flat area.
He doesn’t want to be told what to do. He acts like a child honestly. He wants to make all the noise he wants and no one can tell him otherwise. We wonder if he’s not all there upstairs. He definitely has help of alcohol. He has no job. Just works on random cars back there. Doesn’t drive. Rides a bike when he leaves there or is transported by others. Think it really is just he doesn’t think he should do anything other than what he wants and he knows there’s no one who can make him do otherwise. It’s on the renters to make him leave at this point. He’s made it clear he won’t stop he will just stop while they are there which isn’t enough to give even a break. It’s very frustrating and definitely seems frustrating for the officers that can’t do a thing about it either. Welcome to California

How many cows can we squeeze into a 3 horse slant? There's land out here and this dude is pissing me off enough to drive to Cali and help you move. I've had neighbors like that before.

 

[Bacpacker]

Figure out when he sleeps and find some music you really like, put all your speakers facing him and turn the VOLUME WAY up and give him hours of it every day. He'll get tired at some point

 

[UrbanHunter]

I would be to the point of being bad (or worse in my case)..


Lets see,
gunnysack
frozen mackerel

No...... I would never do that again.....

Just funnin ya....

 

[Double R]

Contact the property owner, not the renter. They may not know someone is living out back and put a stop to that.

Complain to the property owner. If the guy isn't on the lease the owner can tell them he has to go.

We contacted the guy who was out originally when the initial problems started and he said not his problem call the sheriff. We aren’t sure if his dad is the one who really owns it or not and if he would care any differently. We’ve had no luck finding the information on the land yet.

How many cows can we squeeze into a 3 horse slant? There's land out here and this dude is pissing me off enough to drive to Cali and help you move. I've had neighbors like that before.

I’m really sorry you’ve had to deal with this too. I already told my husband when we are finally able to escape we will have zero neighbors anywhere near us. Definitely not in eyesight. Our place was here first. The other came later so it’s been a challenge we didn’t really expect.

Figure out when he sleeps and find some music you really like, put all your speakers facing him and turn the VOLUME WAY up and give him hours of it every day. He'll get tired at some point

I wish I could but I would be the one in trouble if I did. Plus there are little toddlers in the house and I won’t do that to them. Usually they seem home alone which apparently isn’t even a crime in this state.

Went ahead and did an anonymous tip with the county for inhabited outbuilding code violation as the sheriff suggested. Can take two months to be looked into according to the website. Everything is fast here. (Sarcasm)

 

[user 55]

Maybe some concerned citizens could have a meeting with him next time he's on a ride. You know, to offer "words of encouragement "...

 

[angie_nrs]

Can you find out who your local tax assessor is? They could give you the information of the property owner next door. Or call the local courthouse and ask, since it is public record. Perhaps it's a small enough piece that you could buy? Wouldn't that be a hoot if you could secretly buy it and kick him out? Just a thought.......I'm sure property, especially one with a home on it, likely woudn't be an affordable option, but the idea of YOU being the one to kick his arse out would be awesome!

You make me so glad I don't live in CA! Although (unfortunately), jerks live in all 50 states. I sure hope you can get it figured out. Too bad you couldn't go to the local government office and make a complaint about noise pollution or disturbing the peace or something.

 

[Sparky_D]

Last December, I tried to order CPAP supplies while my coverage was at 100%.

Sleep Therapy said I would need a new prescription.
I call my primary care physician and schedule an appointment to get a new prescription even though I got one for a new machine in 2019.
Next available appointment is end of January.

At appointment, doctor says I need a new sleep study since my last one was over 15 years ago.
She refers me to a sleep specialist. Their next available appointment was mid-April.

I see the sleep specialist mid-April and he refers me for an in home sleep study.

Sleep therapy clinic calls me three weeks later and schedules my study for mid-May.
I go in, pick up the device and the training to use it and settle in for the worst night of sleep in 15 years (can't use my CPAP so they can get true data).
I return the device the next morning and promptly go home for a 4 hour nap.

Today I finally get the report.
Surprise, surprise, surprise. Total or partial airway obstruction 56.7 times per hour with an oxygen level high of 79%.

It only took 6 months for my doctors to realize that I actually DO need the item they prescribed for me.

Sometimes I hate this countries medical system...

 

[backlash]

Sleep studies are not fun.
They wire you up like a lab monkey they are shooting into space, you are in a strange bed, they are watching you and they expect you to sleep.
With the AutopPAP machines, they should just let the machine figure out what you need and skip not sleeping in their lab. My first study cost my insurance $3000 each night. One to confirm I had it and one to try to get the number for the pressure.
The doctors are all in cahoots with each other and they make a lot of money because of it.

 

[angie_nrs]

Do you know how many people I know that have gone in for a sleep study and NOT been prescribed a CPAP machine? None, zero, nada. I'd say if your spouse says you quit breathing in the middle of the night, then you have sleep apnea. Unless, of coarse, that spouse is the reason you aren't breathing in the middle of the night......a well placed pillow will do that, ya know. But seriously, it's really pretty simple, but there's no money in it for big medicine.......so a testing we will go...

 

[Cascadian]

I told my Dr.s I am tired all the time. I said and don't give me none of that diet and exercise BS I want a pill or something.
So they decided I may need a sleep study. I said if the purpose of that is a CPAP hell no! I told them when you stop breathing in your sleep that is mother nature's way of saying you are just taking up space. They dropped that.

 

[UrbanHunter]

(In the US) All these studies are required because Medicare/Medicaid don't trust the doctors or people in general and need to have a "current Study" on record before they will "allow" them to be covered. It is the same thing with oxygen and a number of other supplies that need to be replenished on a regular basis... Same thing happens to people on disability...

The sad part is they (government folks) require the studies (which cost $$$) to save a little money ($). That's the trouble with agencies who are run by people who don't understand what they are doing (Congress and the Political Appointees at the head of each Government Agency). Usually, it is like having the fox guard the hen house.

 

[sonya123]

I don't really have a rant ( not against people anyway, we have nice neighbors for the most part and they are not that close) but reading about your troubles with loud neighbors. Wow , I feel lucky we never had to deal with this when we lived in Orlando with neighbors all around. They were all pretty quiet. But it was noisy there for other reasons, like a train whistle 3 miles away that would go off all night, and planes flying over the house, and people driving by with their music in the car really loud. I just slept with ear plugs in. You get used to them really quick and it makes a lot of differences if you live in a loud place

 

[havasu]

So, after a few years, I decided to get my garage floor done professionally with long lasting epoxy. The guy is coming today at 3 pm for a price. I figured I may as well paint the walls, since I've removed everything from the garage. I first chose ultra white, but after 2 coats, it was just too stark. I then painted 2 coats of a concrete gray color, which looks way better, especially since the floors are going to be dark gray. While out there painting, mama comes out to tell me the washer just took its final spin, and is now getting stuck mid cycle. OK, I can handle a new washer, but unless you get a set, you may never get a matched set, so there goes another few grand. To top it off, while painting the garage, my 3 year old Genie garage door opener died, so now I have to go buy a new opener. Damn, I think I will crawl back to bed.

 

[Weedygarden]

So, after a few years, I decided to get my garage floor done professionally with long lasting epoxy. The guy is coming today at 3 pm for a price. I figured I may as well paint the walls, since I've removed everything from the garage. I first chose ultra white, but after 2 coats, it was just too stark. I then painted 2 coats of a concrete gray color, which looks way better, especially since the floors are going to be dark gray. While out there painting, mama comes out to tell me the washer just took its final spin, and is now getting stuck mid cycle. OK, I can handle a new washer, but unless you get a set, you may never get a matched set, so there goes another few grand. To top it off, while painting the garage, my 3 year old Genie garage door opener died, so now I have to go buy a new opener. Damn, I think I will crawl back to bed.

When it rains, it pours.

 

[backlash]

So, after a few years, I decided to get my garage floor done professionally with long lasting epoxy. The guy is coming today at 3 pm for a price. I figured I may as well paint the walls, since I've removed everything from the garage. I first chose ultra white, but after 2 coats, it was just too stark. I then painted 2 coats of a concrete gray color, which looks way better, especially since the floors are going to be dark gray. While out there painting, mama comes out to tell me the washer just took its final spin, and is now getting stuck mid cycle. OK, I can handle a new washer, but unless you get a set, you may never get a matched set, so there goes another few grand. To top it off, while painting the garage, my 3 year old Genie garage door opener died, so now I have to go buy a new opener. Damn, I think I will crawl back to bed.

Mission creep. You have to really watch those home projects. I once replaced some old parquet tiles in the entryway. I finally got the job halted after I completely remodeled the kitchen, diningroom, and living room.