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Danil54grl said:
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This is urban warfare. The Ukrainian military is not strong enough to meet the Russians straight up so they need to fight where they have an advantage. Using civilians as a cover and an excuse is that advantage. Should it be a war crime to use civilians as a cover? Or should it be a war crime to bomb civilian areas? I guess the answer depends on your situation at that moment.
 
Schattentarn said:
This is urban warfare. The Ukrainian military is not strong enough to meet the Russians straight up so they need to fight where they have an advantage. Using civilians as a cover and an excuse is that advantage. Should it be a war crime to use civilians as a cover? Or should it be a war crime to bomb civilian areas? I guess the answer depends on your situation at that moment.
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The rules of war did once dictate that a city could only be attacked if only besieged and upon their refusal to surrender. Sadly all those rules went out the window with the 2nd world war. A advancing army shall do what it must do in such circumstances. I do think if a war crime. Than far more allied commanders and leaders would find themselves at the docks of Nuremberg for the indiscriminate defenceless fire bombings of civilian populations all around the world. They never did stand trial.
 
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That is incredible. 2,500 km of tunnel! The longest expedition was just 40 km. There is no way smugglers would not still be using those tunnels. It's "forbidden" to map them.
Those tunnels are a huge security risk, yet the government (local and country) just looks the other way
Odessa is a port city. Look at where it is on a map:
Ukraine Maps & Facts
A gigantic set of tunnels right next to a port city. That's a smugglers wet dream. No one would ever see what you're bringing in and out. You can't tell me the authorities wouldn't be aware of how easy it would be for smugglers to take full advantage of that tunnel system.
Smuggling tunnels are a well known problem:
Smuggling tunnel - Wikipedia
It's even bigger BS that they say the 700 mile one in Ukraine was only used to smuggle "cigarettes". Yeah right. That's not the main good they go underground for and anyone with a brain knows it.
If you look at the demographics of Ukraine it's crazy how fast the population has been dropping there for decades. They claim it's out-migration or it's a low birth rate, but Ukraine's low birth rate doesn't make sense when the women start having kids so young. Yet somehow all the kids keep disappearing and everyone acts like they're not. "What kids?"
Demographics of Ukraine - Wikipedia
Ukraine, where total fertility (a very low 1.1 in 2001), was one of the world's lowest, shows that there is more than one pathway to lowest-low fertility. Although Ukraine has undergone immense political and economic transformations during 1991–2004,* it has maintained a young age at first birth and nearly universal childbearing*. Analysis of official national statistics and the Ukrainian Reproductive Health Survey show that fertility declined to very low levels without a transition to a later pattern of childbearing. Findings from focus group interviews suggest explanations of the early fertility pattern. These findings include the persistence of traditional norms for childbearing and the roles of men and women, concerns about medical complications and infertility at a later age, and the link between early fertility and early marriage
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The women remained traditional and gave birth very young. That should raise the population, yet somehow Ukraine crashed like a rock anyway.
They've KNOWN something is deeply wrong in Ukraine. Young, traditional mothers should be causing the population to soar, but somehow it never happens.
The case of the missing children; Lost babies and corpses without organs fuel allegations of trafficking in body parts in Ukraine
Hospital officials say these gruesome images reveal nothing except the biological waste from dozens of routine abortions. But relatives of women who gave birth at Hospital No. 6 say they are part of growing evidence suggesting something sinister: newborns taken from their mothers, disappearing in a region known for trafficking in harvested organs and human tissue.
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"It's really hard to find the truth," said Zinaida Dromashko, whose daughter-in-law, Svetlana Puzikova, was too upset to talk about her missing baby. "It's like you strike your head against the brick wall. You strike more and more, but the wall stays untouched."
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It happens often in Ukraine and just gets swept under the rug.
Allegations about stolen babies first surfaced in Kharkiv about three years ago. Mothers of two newborns complained that hospital staff took away their babies immediately after birth, later claiming that they were born dead.
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The babies are literally stolen and the mothers are not allowed the bodies.
The case was closed, despite questions that kept nagging at the babies' relatives: Why were so many of the bodies missing vital organs? If their children weren't in the grave, where did they go?
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Even more disturbing, Ms. Vermot-Mangold said, is the evidence that infants were treated so casually in Ukraine that the true number of children missing across the country may never be known. "Whatever the number of disappearances, just one case is one too many," she said.
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They steal your baby right after it's born and then tell you it died and refuse to give you the body saying, "This is for your own good". When parents protest they get no justice.
After visiting Hospital No. 6. and hearing the story of mothers who were never allowed to see their babies, Ms. Vermot-Mangold met with the regional prosecutor who first investigated the complaints. The prosecutor did not give clear answers about how his office handled the issue, she said, and did not offer much reassurance about the "many contradictions and irregularities" of the cases.
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The parliamentarian did not speculate about what might have happened to the missing children.
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Ms. Dromashko said she still hopes that her daughter-in-law's child might be alive, maybe sold for an illegal adoption.
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Stolen as newborns and sold. Those poor children.
But when his small group of activists visited clinics in Kharkiv, Donetsk and other Ukrainian cities last year, they found evidence of an underground market in fetus parts.
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Babies keep mysteriously disappearing or dying, but authorities never can find out why no matter how hard upset families push for answers.
You have a country with tunnels everywhere. They are everywhere in the Ukraine. It's a smugglers paradise.
Kiev also has the deepest metro station in the world:
Exploring the Deepest Metro Station in the World - Perceptive Travel
 
Danil54grl said:
For current events, start at 51: 15, but the first leads you into how this all came about. It is a little over a couple hours, but this has taken me well over because of my internet connection. . . Well worth it though.
https://rumble.com/vx6vok-putin-vs-the-deep-state-part-one-a-film-by-mrtruthbomb.html
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Danil a most interesting video. As you said well worth the time. Certainly maps out the geographical significance for Russia and the dark web of intrigue by NATO and the deep state has manoeuvred over the decades. More so from 2014, I also found the intervention of the Russian imperial navy all the way back to the American civil war stationed at New York and San Francisco most fascinating. I’ve always wanted more information on that I shall search out the books shown . Thank you
 
Danil54grl said:
Babies keep mysteriously disappearing or dying, but authorities never can find out why no matter how hard upset families push for answers.
You have a country with tunnels everywhere. They are everywhere in the Ukraine. It's a smugglers paradise.
Kiev also has the deepest metro station in the world:
Exploring the Deepest Metro Station in the World - Perceptive Travel
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This makes me seriously want to puke. OMG, what the CIA and parts of our government has been doing is more evil than I had imagined. They MUST be stopped!!

This is what we will experience here if we don’t FIGHT!
 
Some news sources say that Ramzan Kadyrov has traveled to Ukraine, which probably means that the whole thing there will escalate even more.
Kadyrov is very brave as a head of state to travel to this crisis area, for NATO and Europe, this trouble spot is slowly becoming a test.
It looks like the balance of power in this world is changing at the moment, the only question is which country will lead an attack on another next.
China, Iran and North Korea are in the starting blocks, they are watching now and will act very quickly if they are sure that they have nothing to fear.
 
rainingcatzanddogs said:
Amazing isn't it? Hitler kills 6 million and was made to pay a price for decades. Russia kills ten times that using gulags, starvation and outright mass murders in the streets and they got entire countries handed to them on a silver platter.
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Stalin was a hero to the Communist leaders. The reason Hitler is beaten into the ground as a monster is to avoid talking about what the Communists did.

The school system pushes him 24/7 so there's no room to talk about anybody else. Like Mao or Stalin -- both killed way more than Hitler.

When someone says they're a "trained Marxist", people should react negatively. But nobody has a clue as to what that actually means to them. Many kids think it's "cool". (Like wearing a Che T-shirt.)
 
DrHenley said:
But...but...but...
Kamala is even worse!
She completely embarrassed the country even worse than Biden has with her laugh-athon in Poland.
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Drhenley the 2022 election can’t can’t come quick enough with all that has happened from the 2020 rigged election. I sometimes have serious reservations if we’ll ever have prosperity again. Many of the Democratic Party seem diabolically evil and some of the republicans seem to have a inner connection with them when it comes to certain things. As to Kamala just like Mr Biden they simply laugh everything off. It’s for a reason it’s not that they don’t realise what they are doing it’s because they do. They with their globalist friends want to destroy your way of life intentionally.
 
ban1985 said:
Some news sources say that Ramzan Kadyrov has traveled to Ukraine, which probably means that the whole thing there will escalate even more.
Kadyrov is very brave as a head of state to travel to this crisis area, for NATO and Europe, this trouble spot is slowly becoming a test.
It looks like the balance of power in this world is changing at the moment, the only question is which country will lead an attack on another next.
China, Iran and North Korea are in the starting blocks, they are watching now and will act very quickly if they are sure that they have nothing to fear.
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kadyrov is a putin-puppet, his chechen criminals are nothing more than criminals.. you never said a single **** here when putin sent his puppets from luhansk, the sparta battallion, which were nothing but neo-nazis, you are so in love with putin.
 
jontte said:
kadyrov is a putin-puppet, his chechen criminals are nothing more than criminals.. you never said a single **** here when putin sent his puppets from luhansk, the sparta battallion, which were nothing but neo-nazis, you are so in love with putin.
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I'm not in love with Putin, but I also don't approve of the fact that our media here always portray Ukraine as a peaceful and innocent country that has never provoked.
In Ukraine there are for years thousands of neo-Nazis who operate in paramilitary units and also terrorize their own population, which is not seen elsewhere in a European country and the EU in government would write a long time if there were such units in an EU country and the EU would then sanction this country on the sharpest.
But in Ukraine, our politicians and media look the other way, it is absolutely not mentioned, unless the gang then flees to a European country.
 
The Ukrainian people are not at fault. The Ukrainian leadership is. They ignored the problem and the problem is NATO and Russian security interests. Now they are all finding how important those interests are indirectly to Ukrainians. The Ukrainian leadership still won't budge. How much, how many lives and property is Zelensky willing to sacrifice to make himself look good?

Meanwhile, Biden and his band of Incompetents are doing absolutely nothing to mitigate the damages except puffing up and talking about sending more arms to Ukraine. And the American media and censorship agencies and companies are making sure only one side of this story is ever told.

We live on a very, very, bad planet right now.
 
GaRp58 said:
Why are the Russian missiles so successful at getting by the air-defense systems of the Ukrainians??
Because they have a new technology we did not know about till now.....
a mini-dart with electronics to "blind-side" the defense systems.
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????? - what missile defense? - they only have a mixed bag of man pad anti-aircraft ....
 
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