Should I be buying water?

[Brent S]

I agree stainless steel and glass are best. Keep in mind plastic will leach chemicals from the ground if the container sets directly on the ground especially concrete though if temps are below 77 than the plastic won't react to the heat and safe to store on the ground including concrete, not an issue here but can be an issue in the South, but if the the plastic containers (blue BPA free) are set in a dry cool place off the ground with no direct sun light then the plastic are safe. Most plastic pop bottles and milk jugs are totally safe for a limited time but will easily last 6 months except for the milk jugs, milk jugs will last 90 days if kept refrigerated, I personally would refrain from using milk jugs.

Also keep in mind, most canned goods are lined on the inside that also leaches if above 77deg F So while the focus have been placed on plastic water containers/bottles for some reason canned goods are ignored.

Also here's a link to other information regarding plastics; The Murky Truth About Leaching Plastic Bottles
http://www.livescience.com/5487-murky-truth-leaching-plastic-bottles.html

Honestly, the thought of using milk jugs is kind of gross. Can you really clean out all he residue?

 

[Maverick]

Honestly, the thought of using milk jugs is kind of gross. Can you really clean out all he residue?

I've been told many many times over the years, plastic milk jugs cannot be thoroughly cleaned for reuse. In the last several years I have read and been told that heat starts to break plastic down (135-140degF) though it takes heat to clean milk jugs.

 

[lonewolf]

it dosent matter how much one cleans milk container some of the residue will be left and it will taint the water, how much i'm not sure.
with shop bought water containers the kind you buy in supermarkets, I am informed that the plastic will break down and leech into the water, I always change mine every 6 months, that's buy new not change the water.

 

[Maverick]

it dosent matter how much one cleans milk container some of the residue will be left and it will taint the water, how much i'm not sure.
with shop bought water containers the kind you buy in supermarkets, I am informed that the plastic will break down and leech into the water, I always change mine every 6 months, that's buy new not change the water.

All the research I have read plastic begins to leach if stored were the temps are at 77degF for 3 days below 77 the plastic won't leach.

 

[lonewolf]

i just change it every 6 months to be safe.

 

[jontte]

a good reminder that I'll have some changeing to do soon too...

 

[jontte]

but again with this valuable H2O,we must have plans a,b,c,d and so on,stored water,life straws and alikes,make your own purifycation systems etc...having that feeling of thirst ain't good.
personally I have gotten some nice ideas from here.

 

[Kyle92]

Ok, everyone here thinks your a troll. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here. Get a couple water filters.

Yeah seriously... It's not that complicated. Here I'll get you started, pretty much the first things I found googling... some water filter reviews if you want to get fancy - http://justaddcleanwater.com and a bunch of water filters for sale - http:/waterfilters.mercola.com/ Boom, I just saved you having to lug 100 gallons of water around with you when SHTF.

 

[Silent Earth]

Just buy and store dehydrated water, problem solved ?

 

[Maverick]

Yeah seriously... It's not that complicated. Here I'll get you started, pretty much the first things I found googling... some water filter reviews if you want to get fancy - http://justaddcleanwater.com and a bunch of water filters for sale - http:/waterfilters.mercola.com/ Boom, I just saved you having to lug 100 gallons of water around with you when SHTF.

There isn't much trust from anything Mercola, he's to controversial and by his own admission not an water filtration expert

Much of these big box stores that sell water filters for either water faucet or pitcher style are designed for clean water only, the filter taps for the faucets are designed for pressurized lines to push the water through the filters, if power is lost for a good period of time the homes will lose tap water making the filter taps useless. Getting something like a Berkey or make your own Berkey can be used in the home or in the field, abit slower but more reliable and flexible and the filters last longer.

FYI, Mercola filters are made by Aquasana, just purchase Aquasana and one might save a ton of money if one wants to go that rout

 

[Silent Earth]

There isn't much trust from anything Mercola, he's to controversial and by his own admission not an water filtration expert

Much of these big box stores that sell water filters for either water faucet or pitcher style are designed for clean water only, the filter taps for the faucets are designed for pressurized lines to push the water through the filters, if power is lost for a good period of time the homes will lose tap water making the filter taps useless. Getting something like a Berkey or make your own Berkey can be used in the home or in the field, abit slower but more reliable and flexible and the filters last longer.

FYI, Mercola filters are made by Aquasana, just purchase Aquasana and one might save a ton of money if one wants to go that rout

Many water filters on sale like the Brita range for example only improve the TASTE of pre treated and chlorinated water, they do not make tainted water safe.

 

[Maverick]

Many water filters on sale like the Brita range for example only improve the TASTE of pre treated and chlorinated water, they do not make tainted water safe.

Exactly right, the majority are for clean water only.

 

[Silent Earth]

Big Berkys and British Berkfields are the best by far especially those using silver enhanced ceramic filter candles

 

[Brent S]

Big Berkys and British Berkfields are the best by far especially those using silver enhanced ceramic filter candles

I don't know if mine are silver enhanced or not, but are the ceramic ones. I'm not impressed by their new plastic with charcoal ones, but guess they are better than nothing. The only good thing I can say about them is they are less fragile than the ceramic. One thing to improve the Berkey is still to use a sediment filter first just to make the filters last longer between cleanings.

 

[Maverick]

Speaking of BPA, I came across this article this morning though the article isn't specifically about BPA or water it does touch on some other important information we should keep in the back of our minds.

Many researchers believe the biggest source of BPA contamination comes through food packaging. Sure, canned food is convenient, but almost all of those metal cans are coated with a BPA resin, which migrates into the food. Acidic canned products, such as tomato paste or sauces, are particularly saturated with BPA.

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2017/02/22/13-surprising-sperm-killers.html

 

[Brent S]

Speaking of BPA, I came across this article this morning though the article isn't specifically about BPA or water it does touch on some other important information we should keep in the back of our minds.

Many researchers believe the biggest source of BPA contamination comes through food packaging. Sure, canned food is convenient, but almost all of those metal cans are coated with a BPA resin, which migrates into the food. Acidic canned products, such as tomato paste or sauces, are particularly saturated with BPA.

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2017/02/22/13-surprising-sperm-killers.html

My guess is you probably don't want to know what crap is in the foods we eat. I'm sure we don't even know about half of the stuff yet. You have to wonder why so many have digestive disorders, cancers, and all assorted health issues. I used to think the government actually cared about people's health. When they made a deal with the tobacco companies and are now profiting from sales I pretty much gave up hope. The best advice I can give is eat as much fresh, un modified food as you can. I still really like cheese burgers even knowing they are made from pink slime. I just try not to eat them daily.

 

[lonewolf]

all canned food is processed to some extent or other and a diet full of processed food isn't good, I think this is probably why a lot of people have allergies and behavioural problems and other stuff all the way up to cancer. fresh food preferably home grown is best, at least if you grow your own food you know what goes into it.

 

[Maverick]

My guess is you probably don't want to know what crap is in the foods we eat. I'm sure we don't even know about half of the stuff yet. You have to wonder why so many have digestive disorders, cancers, and all assorted health issues. I used to think the government actually cared about people's health. When they made a deal with the tobacco companies and are now profiting from sales I pretty much gave up hope. The best advice I can give is eat as much fresh, un modified food as you can. I still really like cheese burgers even knowing they are made from pink slime. I just try not to eat them daily.

Humans have developed a taste for chemicalized processed foods, store bought eggs stink to high heaven and don't even look right to me including the meat along with so-called bacon, how many people actually ate real bacon, it don't even taste like the store bought shxt, for Christ sake even water is processed today from tap water to bottled water. No Sir, I'll eat what I grow, forage, hunt and fish for, I do everything possible to stay out of the poison centers (grocery stores). I just don't like the thought of poison approved and processed for human consumption!

 

[lonewolf]

we grow some of our own food, not all of it but a large part, no meat animals yet, we buy all our meat fresh at our local weekly market half a mile away, we buy eggs half a mile away in the other direction from a guy who has a few chickens in his yard, I intend to do more foraging this year, hunting we have to have permission from the land owner or else its armed trespass.