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I think building supplies are always a good bet. With the push to all electric cars you can bet any copper wire is going to be in short supply soon... That will impact BRASS prices....

Screws and nails are something you don't want to be without.

Long term stable food that you eat is always a good bet. I also like having canned fruit, I have become hooked on canned grapefruit, it cost almost the same as fresh and will last on the shelf for a while.... Then again I believe that you should always be eating what you store, but having 14 months supply instead of 12 may not be a bad thing (I expect to see inflation on everything soon).

When thinking about this subject, if you amend your garden soil you might consider what you use and how much you will need over the next couple of years. I am assuming that everyone here has their seeds for the next year or so... But then again you know about assuming too much...
 
Well, I was on a rare trip to Stines for some mulch and potting soil.
I kept bumping into this pesky pallet of stuff.
Told the guys they needed to park it out back before something gets broke.
Nobody needs this stuff, it's just in the way:
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With lids.
 
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fasteners isn't a bad bet even though there are a lot of US based fastener manufacturers I am betting a lot of the raw materials come from across the ponds!

Anything garden related, long term food related is a great bet to store in quantities! I am just wondering which item will be next to difficult to obtain!
 
Homesteader33 said:
fasteners isn't a bad bet even though there are a lot of US based fastener manufacturers I am betting a lot of the raw materials come from across the ponds!

Anything garden related, long term food related is a great bet to store in quantities! I am just wondering which item will be next to difficult to obtain!
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I guarantee you it will be the one you didn't expect and can't live without
 
Homesteader33 said:
fasteners isn't a bad bet even though there are a lot of US based fastener manufacturers I am betting a lot of the raw materials come from across the ponds!

Anything garden related, long term food related is a great bet to store in quantities! I am just wondering which item will be next to difficult to obtain!
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That is why I obtained heirloom seeds grew them out, collected and stored a large amount of seeds.

I dont own enough land to grow enough food for a large number of people but there nearby farms that are growing hybrid crops. Then there will be others that have neither seed or land but can provide a strong back.

Ben
 
Neb said:
but can provide a strong back.
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Sooooo Are you in Mexico or China......??? I think we Americans will play hell trying to find people willing to do manual labor, even if starving to death is the clear result of not working.
 
Sourdough said:
Sooooo Are you in Mexico or China......??? I think we Americans will play hell trying to find people willing to do manual labor, even if starving to death is the clear result of not working.
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Neither.

I will understand your comment as directed at the US public in general in which case I agree. Empty bellies have a way of adjusting attitudes.

I view collecting an abundance of heirloom seeds as both a act of love and an investment.

Love in the sense of planning to provide a valuable resource to those that did not have the foresight to prepare.

Investment in the sense I would ask for a small share of their harvest.

It is a win-win-win where everyone involved is benefitting.

Without the seeds there would only be empty bellies and dirt.

Ben
 
Yahoo just had an article about 21 container ships anchored off the coast of LA, the article said the port was jammed up, maybe not enough workers? With the increase of covid pay a lot of people don't want to work anymore. My son runs the small engine and tool repair shop for Farmers Building Supply in Grants Pass, Oregon and he is not able to get help, no one wants a job unless it pays way above minimum wage, some just don't want to work anymore with all the "free" Covid pay. As it is I've strived to get extra supplies, I've been telling friends to get stores of deck screws ( my favorite is the Torks head), extra faucets and valves kits for bathroom and kitchen, oil and filters for vehicles as well as new tires or even a new set stored in a shed, it was a good idea to have extra lumber and plywood on hand, however trying to stock up on those last two items could cost you dearly, I've heard that 1/2" plywood is up to $70 a sheet, I haven't looked at what clear 1" by oak, clear fir or pine boards cost, but my guess is that they have also gone out of sight in price and that's the boards I use in making shelves for my wife, good thing I have a little oak for building a book shelf she wants. Above all things, I'm just glad I'm nearing the end of bigger projects as it looks like the price of things has gone up about 10 times what I used to pay, thing is I need to have supplies on hand for future repairs. I wasn't born into a world like this, even considering things were bad due to WW II, the things going on now are more like we are seeing the beginning the end of the age, the new president is shredding the Constitution and Bill of Rights, his son has made deals with the devil and the pope has said he would baptize aliens, are we having fun yet?
 
Well.......shoot...
I am so out of the loop. Being handicapped now I just don't keep up with stuff. I thank everyone on here for the heads up.
I will be checking out the scrap metal situation Monday. I have quite a bit.
The lumber situation..........Hmmmm.
I own a tree farm in NC. I own a saw mill.......hmmm. Now if I can just get some help. Maybe I should watch and see how it goes? I have not had any Mailings of offers to buy my trees in quite a while. I used to get them all the time. I guess I will check out the situation with another saw mill operation and see what they say.
 
Just Cliff said:
Well.......shoot...
I am so out of the loop. Being handicapped now I just don't keep up with stuff. I thank everyone on here for the heads up.
I will be checking out the scrap metal situation Monday. I have quite a bit.
The lumber situation..........Hmmmm.
I own a tree farm in NC. I own a saw mill.......hmmm. Now if I can just get some help. Maybe I should watch and see how it goes? I have not had any Mailings of offers to buy my trees in quite a while. I used to get them all the time. I guess I will check out the situation with another saw mill operation and see what they say.
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If your trees are in good shape they should be like money in the bank, if the things I have read are true they will only go up in value.
 
UrbanHunter said:
If your trees are in good shape they should be like money in the bank, if the things I have read are true they will only go up in value.
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I agree that trees are a good thing to have. But.....the inflated prices we are seeing at the stores now are not being passed on down the line to the loggers, truckers, or landowners. Those folks are not getting a piece of that pie. There is a bubble in that market...........someone is getting fat off of it, and it ain't the working guy doing the hard labor to get the product to the market. :mad:
 
Years ago. My boss (a Socialist) Chief of police, could not understand something I told him about my trees. "If I cut my trees now, I will have some money but, If I keep them and cut them when I want, I will always have some money and wood." He was a city guy and just couldn't understand "Me and my trees"
 
We harvested our trees. It helped pay our construction cost for our home and we were going to be really bummed if it burned. After the summer of Antifa "global warming" fires in Oregon we were glad we didn't wait.
 
Just Cliff said:
Years ago. My boss (a Socialist) Chief of police, could not understand something I told him about my trees. "If I cut my trees now, I will have some money but, If I keep them and cut them when I want, I will always have some money and wood." He was a city guy and just couldn't understand "Me and my trees"
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I kind of had the same problem with my wife over the black walnut I planted just below our deck on the south side of the house, she doesn't care for black walnuts as it takes a heavy piece of steel and at least a one pound hammer to break them open, I told her that black walnut logs are often very valuable, I've heard of some going for over $1,000 or even more depending on the grain of the wood, when considered for rifle stocks. I happen to like the meat of black walnuts, even though it's rather hard to get it out of the shells.
 
viking said:
..., I told her that black walnut logs are often very valuable, I've heard of some going for over $1,000 or even more depending on the grain of the wood, when considered for rifle stocks. I happen to like the meat of black walnuts, even though it's rather hard to get it out of the shells.
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A friend of mine planted 5 acres of those several years ago "for his children's future".
Don't worry about them cashing them in until he passes.
No worry about the government taking them either.
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Oh, on topic: no 12-oz Coors-light cans in the store today. Had to get Bud Lite instead (which I prefer) but it's $2 a case more. Dang aluminum shortage!
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viking said:
I kind of had the same problem with my wife over the black walnut I planted just below our deck on the south side of the house, she doesn't care for black walnuts as it takes a heavy piece of steel and at least a one pound hammer to break them open, I told her that black walnut logs are often very valuable, I've heard of some going for over $1,000 or even more depending on the grain of the wood, when considered for rifle stocks. I happen to like the meat of black walnuts, even though it's rather hard to get it out of the shells.
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Use a wringer or drive over them - for reals, just lay them on half a tarp, fold the top over them so tires aren't on the meat of the nut, then drive over them. And black walnut is my favorite color wood.
 
Terri9630 said:
I wonder if this is contributing to the canning lid shortages... I found it on my Dr Pepper cans and also coke and sprite cans.
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Seems Ball quit making canning supplies when my oldest was born. Learn something everyday.

https://www.ball.com/na/about-ball/overview/history-timelineBall-Foster Glass Container Co. creates a joint-venture glass company with Group Saint Gobain, in September 1995. Ball sells its remaining interest in Ball-Foster to Group Saint Gobain in 1996 and exits the glass business.
 
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