So we lost London today, gone but not forgotten, London voted for a MUSLIM Mayor and got over 50% of the vote !!, When the west lost Constantinople it got renamed Instanbul, I wonder what London will be renamed as ?
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Do not you think that in 2 years, Ukraine on the battlefield against Russia has already proved its right to membership in the European Union ???
No Sir, The west had a gentlemans agreement with Russia not to go intruding on its traditional sphere of influence, its BECAUSE of the expansionist attitude of the Euro Federalists that has caused the problem in the Ukraine. The Ukraine has never been a part of Western Europe its always operated towards the Russian culture and world.
Ask most Brits and Western europeans and they will say we dont want millions of impoverished Ukranians pouring west we already are blighted by Albanians, Romanians, Hungarians, Estonians, Latvians, Poles sucking our economies dry. Sadly the Ukranians like the Turks are Europes version of South Americans trying to get into the US.
The sphere of influence of Russia on the territory of Ukraine extends exactly as far as Britain's sphere of influence extends to Canada and Australia. Only difference is that Britain, unlike Russia does not interfere in the affairs of its former colonies.
In this regard, I have no doubt. Srl is natural that the majority of British and West Europeans prefer to host immigrants from Syria, Iraq, Eritrea, Afghanistan. Thanks to them, the European economy will continue to grow, and the well-being of the population increase, and culturally and ethnically they are the majority of Britons and Western Europeans nearer.
Agreed Sir we did not invade Georgia recently RUSSIA did, WE did not kidnap Estonian and Latvian citizens from inside their own borders RUSSIA did, We did not arm and support the Eastern Ukranian seperatists. Russia recognises NO borders its just like the US in that matter.
I would prefer the Asiatics to the Ukranians as they are better skilled and educated in general and have a long cultural association with the former Colonial powers we have no cultural links with the Steppes, we have a hard enough time accomodating the Poles.
The greatest difference between most European countries and the Brits is historically the Euro countries lay down and surrender far to easily ( Stalin, Hitler Mussolini etc) to bullying neighbours .
I want to reassure you. The vast majority of Ukrainians are not absolute **** live in Western Europe or Britain. And the main reason is not a lack of cultural links but the fact that the laws in force in Western Europe and especially in Britain, from our point of view, look so that limit our rights. Even the rule of law which operate in neighboring Poland, we will be considered as unacceptable and dictatorial. So by the way the Poles say, adding that coming to Ukraine, they relax the soul. The desire of the population of Ukraine to join the EU due to a much more mundane desires than you think, for the most part consumer.
N.P...their are some American's with ties to Ukraine....my wife's grandfather emigrated from Ukraine, prior to it being absorbed by the USSR. Their are many North Dakotan's who would open up their homes to those who are homeless.
We have enough third and fourth world types already buggering things up in Europe and the UK, the thought of Ukranians and Turks fills me with dread, Vlad is welcome to the Steppes. Just watch a documentary of rural eastern Ukraine where the local dudes Kidnap girls to marry and its culturally acceptable !!!, where interfamily disputes are resolved in tit for tat killings that go on for decades, we dont need that over here. The Ukraine should stand on its own two feet.
Yeah know what you mean, help those genuinely in need, we have been hosting kids from the Ukraine each summer who even after all this time are getting cancer from living near Pripyat / Chernobyl we are part of a charity who bring them to the UK for R & R and sponsored medical treatment. That was the worst thing to happen to the Ukranians in a long time.
I do not know what movie you have in mind, but the eastern part of Ukraine where your description of the village are currently under russian occupation and the only place where people inhabit this part they can move is Russia. A special feature of the region is the fact that since the 50's of the 20th century on the location of where the company sent conditionally released prisoners from all over the Soviet Union, which as a rule there and settled. By the way that this explains the commitment to the people of Russia.
N.R, what about those "sharia" patrols I read every now and then,those that attack and terrorize pubs for serving and punters for drinking??
had a little row about that when I took the liberty of answering a FB comment after London became Londonistan,one Brit was quite ready to shoot me...
had a little row about that when I took the liberty of answering a FB comment after London became Londonistan,one Brit was quite ready to shoot me...
N.R, what about those "sharia" patrols I read every now and then,those that attack and terrorize pubs for serving and punters for drinking??
had a little row about that when I took the liberty of answering a FB comment after London became Londonistan,one Brit was quite ready to shoot me...
Yup, Sharia Patrols illegal as hell but our cops are terrified of being accised of racism by the Muslims so they turned a blind eye until things got really out of hand. these Shariah patrols started having a go at non muslims first men telling them not to drink in " muslim areas" then they started verbally and physically abusing white girls who had uncovered arms and legs. The police had to step in before riots happened. Unforunately and its beyond all debate the fact is the UK police are more concerned about being inclusive and politically correct than they are about protecting society as seen in Rotherham. For FIFTEEN years young girls reported being groomed and sexually abused and passed around gangs of Muslim men, FIFTEEN YEARS, The BNP party tried to expose it and its leader was prosecuted THREE times for Racism ( aquitted each time) A Labour MP tried to expose it and got ridiculed for her efforts, THEN Channel 4 TV exposed it as being true and the police wanted to prosecute the TV station.
All comes to all the girls had told the truth, but it got worse, it turned out that 1400 young white girls had been abused by Muslim men for 15 years and not only did the police do NOTHING , NADA, ZIP, ZERO, but also the local Socialist Labour City council knew of the abuse and had covered it up ALL to ensure they did not upset the Muslim community.
AND its gets even WORSE. It turns out the organised grooming, raping, beating and abusing of young white girls as young as TEN years old has been going on in over FIFTY British towns and cities. There are also parts of london, Leicster, Birmingham, Bradford, Halifax where they are NO GO AREAS for whites especially girls.
To date not one Policeman or Politician or Social worker has been sacked or prosecuted.
Hey Yanks and Finns, and Afrikaans, CHEW ON THIS, coming to a town near you sooner or later.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ondon-borough-70-000-immigrants-moved-in.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ondon-borough-70-000-immigrants-moved-in.html
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Says he from Finnlandistan.
I do not understand why you are this at itself are allowing ...
I'm seeing too many signs of the same 'politically correct' B.S. over here as well. And it's not a new thing either. I feel like as long as we can keep our govt. from robbing us of our 2nd Amendment rights, we can prevent a lot of that mess. At least, in the part of the country where I live.
Grand Island Regional is a small airport, pretty much about the size of my hometown airport in terms of flights and amenities
Given that, I'm making and educated guess that the airport will close down at some point and not remain open, so staying there for even 24 hrs wont be an option.
John might find out if the airline is making arrangements to charter a bus to get passengers either back home or closer to their destination.
Given the nature of the emergency no charters may be available, but in our area if a flight comes in that was meant to go elsewhere the airline contracts with a local bus company to get passengers to their destination.
I guess a good question would be how did airlines handle the groundings on 9/11 and expect them to follow that course of action unless they've developed alternate plans in the past 15 years.
Getting the family headed closer to him may or may not be an option if the family isn't security minded
There's nothing in the scenario that indicates the attacks are over, and if more attacks happen and the entire family is on the road...well, that could be bad for everyone.
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reading further I see there have been additional attacks, which addresses my point above on that issue
OP I don't see a pass system being implemented within 8 hrs of widespread attacks
Government is not that efficient
That's actually a myth.
There is nothing in Federal Motor Carrier Regulations that addresses the issue of firearms on commercial trucks.
State law might, but that would be on a state by state basis
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I dunno. The guy isn't a serious prepper, and the family doesn't have much in the way of anything beyond basic outdoors skills
It's late in the growing year for them to be planting anything and I doubt they're going to cart in a 6 month supply of food for the family
Given that the cabin sounds like a bit of a time share arrangement with the actual owner, it's not a safe plan
I've kept my ACUs and even a few pair of old BDUs, not that those will ever see service again
I figure if I was ever recalled to duty the in-processing alone would take a week.
Hurry up and wait would take on a whole new meaning.
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He should try calling his wife, either from his cell or, failing that, a land line. It's Monday morning quarterbacking, but it sounds like he isn't much of a leader of his family, and they all hold him and his beginning preparedness in contempt, but he should tell them to stay put unless they are able to get to and from a grocery store easily. If, after spending the night at the airport, no more cities are bombed but the ban on air travel still hasn't been lifted, then something else is up, such as a false flag event to institute martial law and keep the current administration in power. He needs to steal a car and go home to get his family. Then, if things get worse, they can head up to the mountains.
First and foremost, the scenario does not go into great detail about the other events affecting the nation. I left them out, because you can run this scenario out to all types of possibilities and that includes overt malicious hacking into our nations network. Something that has been addressed both in Congressional hearings and has Homeland Security working on this very issue with commercial entities. With the new millennium and how the cyber world is completely taken over the world in just about anything...I certainly could have written from that prospective.
In the short-term, it is hard to say how Homeland Security and the Executive leadership will approach another event like 9-11, as this is the only mark we have on that level. As we have seen only this year, the lone extremist (Orlando) or group of determined extremists (Istanbul, Brussels, and Paris) can do more to influence a nation's response into high gear, than a copy cat of 9-11. Granted, I am sure if the terrorist organizations could again manipulate it, they would, I just think lessons learned and the tireless efforts of agencies around the world, not to mention those who serve now to defend our nation, have thwarted many plans over the years. We (the uninformed will never know, how many events have been adverted because of their efforts.
As for our main character being disengaged by his family. Remember, he was a business person, who had just began to think about prepping. When I wrote this scenario, I wrote it for the new folks who are beginning preparations. This is the ultimate goal of DPF, a community to help other members (many of them who are simply new to the idea). So I don't believe that his families reaction is not out of the ordinary for most American's and for that fact many preppers who are just starting out thinking about it.
Lastly, the decision to break statutes in each perspective state is something that will be required in a desperate situation. No offense, but stealing a car is still just that theft. In this case, had our character done such an action, he would have been arrested, after his checkpoint stops. I wrote the scenario from the situation, that he was a law abiding person, trying to get home with any means possible, short of undertaking these desperate measures.
I agree T.C. the airport at Grand Island is very small, I wrote the scenario based on a similar action mandated in the after-action report made by the Federal Aviation Administration and their decisions to ground all aircraft during 9-11. We had no precedence prior to that event and now our nation has a system in place to deal with this issue the next time, note: I didn't say perfect, but it now has better command and control. See reports I posted. As for a timeline on grounding. I think the FAA did a great job of grounding and then lifting the flight restrictions, once it was established the U.S. was no longer under attack. Using HSPD documents it would be hard to imagine how they would address a future event, but read the plan, it will give you some ideas. My suggestion, is that any prepper who flies for an occupation, should have a limited EDC, minus the banned items. In my case, I typically send them via FEDEX to where I am heading to, pre-arrange with the hotel manager to receive the package. Granted can't pack a fire-arm, but their are items that you can send, a collapsible baton, pepper spray, knife, etc.
In the short-term, it is hard to say how Homeland Security and the Executive leadership will approach another event like 9-11, as this is the only mark we have on that level. As we have seen only this year, the lone extremist (Orlando) or group of determined extremists (Istanbul, Brussels, and Paris) can do more to influence a nation's response into high gear, than a copy cat of 9-11. Granted, I am sure if the terrorist organizations could again manipulate it, they would, I just think lessons learned and the tireless efforts of agencies around the world, not to mention those who serve now to defend our nation, have thwarted many plans over the years. We (the uninformed will never know, how many events have been adverted because of their efforts.
As for our main character being disengaged by his family. Remember, he was a business person, who had just began to think about prepping. When I wrote this scenario, I wrote it for the new folks who are beginning preparations. This is the ultimate goal of DPF, a community to help other members (many of them who are simply new to the idea). So I don't believe that his families reaction is not out of the ordinary for most American's and for that fact many preppers who are just starting out thinking about it.
Lastly, the decision to break statutes in each perspective state is something that will be required in a desperate situation. No offense, but stealing a car is still just that theft. In this case, had our character done such an action, he would have been arrested, after his checkpoint stops. I wrote the scenario from the situation, that he was a law abiding person, trying to get home with any means possible, short of undertaking these desperate measures.
I agree T.C. the airport at Grand Island is very small, I wrote the scenario based on a similar action mandated in the after-action report made by the Federal Aviation Administration and their decisions to ground all aircraft during 9-11. We had no precedence prior to that event and now our nation has a system in place to deal with this issue the next time, note: I didn't say perfect, but it now has better command and control. See reports I posted. As for a timeline on grounding. I think the FAA did a great job of grounding and then lifting the flight restrictions, once it was established the U.S. was no longer under attack. Using HSPD documents it would be hard to imagine how they would address a future event, but read the plan, it will give you some ideas. My suggestion, is that any prepper who flies for an occupation, should have a limited EDC, minus the banned items. In my case, I typically send them via FEDEX to where I am heading to, pre-arrange with the hotel manager to receive the package. Granted can't pack a fire-arm, but their are items that you can send, a collapsible baton, pepper spray, knife, etc.
Yep, but if all flights were grounded for over 24 hours following a major terrorist attack, I'd commandeer a vehicle if necessary to get to my family and protect them. Better to be judged by twelve...
