This thread is going to contain historical stuff that some might not want to see, hear or read. It is going to take awhile for me to post up everything and show links and more.
Once at a place far from here, I was going along and saw a crowd of folks. I walked up to them and they had this old man hog tied and their ring leader was bashing him over the head while others were getting the stake ready to hang him on. I said, hey what y'all doing...well they was saying this old man had secrets and wasn't telling them to the crowd. I said, hey have you asked him...they just growled and howled. I said hey old man, why don't you tell them one little nugget? Now the old man done had his fill but decided to give a short and sweet answer....He said "Generally, there is no firewood. It can be 20 or 40 or more miles to the nearest tree. Unguided hunters have been known to smash their wood rifle stocks for firewood. This was before non-wood stocks. Guys have been known to burn their spare clothing for fire. Most (but not all) hunting & camps are above timberline."
They screamed and hollered. I said, there, ya nugget! Why do you think the old man has for decades talked super good sleeping bag and water over and over. I was told I ain't going to be at high elevation....well, I tried to give some examples but the man in charge and others were not having it at all. What they failed to realize is elevation had nothing to do with it...lack of resource was the problem. A treeless area can be at all elevations including coastline.They said, I ain't goin' there because no reason! Well, I beg to differ when for thousands of years people often at least traveled to these types of area to gather game and other resources and often to graze livestock even.
I was going to show them examples but decided it was a waste of time.
Here's nuggets for treeless area...and having a high value sleeping bag....the mid west prairies...I have read where they often cut and twisted grass for cooking and heating...why do people think they built sod houses...it was plentiful and warm and area had limited trees. At one time, (and I only saw one picture and sorry it's on a pdf and won't allow me to screenshot it for y'all...but they used to make a stove for grass..it had two tubes with a spring in it and it compressed the dry grass and automatically as best i can tell pushed it forward into firebox as it burned...sort of like a mini haybaler type thing.
Why do you think Navajo and Hopi took up sheep and goats and weaving once contacted by the Spanish...food and for the wool to weave blankets so they'd use less wood from so far away and in limited availability...it advanced your survival.
Once at a place far from here, I was going along and saw a crowd of folks. I walked up to them and they had this old man hog tied and their ring leader was bashing him over the head while others were getting the stake ready to hang him on. I said, hey what y'all doing...well they was saying this old man had secrets and wasn't telling them to the crowd. I said, hey have you asked him...they just growled and howled. I said hey old man, why don't you tell them one little nugget? Now the old man done had his fill but decided to give a short and sweet answer....He said "Generally, there is no firewood. It can be 20 or 40 or more miles to the nearest tree. Unguided hunters have been known to smash their wood rifle stocks for firewood. This was before non-wood stocks. Guys have been known to burn their spare clothing for fire. Most (but not all) hunting & camps are above timberline."
They screamed and hollered. I said, there, ya nugget! Why do you think the old man has for decades talked super good sleeping bag and water over and over. I was told I ain't going to be at high elevation....well, I tried to give some examples but the man in charge and others were not having it at all. What they failed to realize is elevation had nothing to do with it...lack of resource was the problem. A treeless area can be at all elevations including coastline.They said, I ain't goin' there because no reason! Well, I beg to differ when for thousands of years people often at least traveled to these types of area to gather game and other resources and often to graze livestock even.
I was going to show them examples but decided it was a waste of time.
Here's nuggets for treeless area...and having a high value sleeping bag....the mid west prairies...I have read where they often cut and twisted grass for cooking and heating...why do people think they built sod houses...it was plentiful and warm and area had limited trees. At one time, (and I only saw one picture and sorry it's on a pdf and won't allow me to screenshot it for y'all...but they used to make a stove for grass..it had two tubes with a spring in it and it compressed the dry grass and automatically as best i can tell pushed it forward into firebox as it burned...sort of like a mini haybaler type thing.
Why do you think Navajo and Hopi took up sheep and goats and weaving once contacted by the Spanish...food and for the wool to weave blankets so they'd use less wood from so far away and in limited availability...it advanced your survival.
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