Truck porn

[Silent Earth]

https://expeditionportal.com/the-vans-and-campers-of-overland-expo-east/

Hah someone screwed up all these trucks have their steeering wheels on the wrong side

 

[lonewolf]

I like the Ford but none of them would be much use in our lanes.
if I could buy some land i'd park that on it as use it as a BOL.

 

[DrHenley]

We had one similar to this but not as tall that we used to take into the woods as a mobile hunting camp. Dual wheels on back just like the one in the picture. There were no roads, not even beaten paths where we took it.

 

[Mountain trapper]

These things might be ok on flat land, or where there's roads, but useless where I am. Around here it's too steep, too rocky, too heavily timbered, too much snow/mud or no roads/trails. The best or only way to get around here is ATV, horse or on foot.

 

[GaRp58]

I have a Renault Megan Scenic RX4. 2.0 liter motor, 16 Valves, 1.6 Tons, 30 MPG and goes 120 MPH. Pulls 1.5 ton trailer. Gotta be happy with it. here is a pic:

 

[jontte]

WOW....

 

[EricB1970]

Did someone say truck porn? Eventually this is going to get a crew cab with an 8' box to use as a camper.

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[Silent Earth]

Did someone say truck porn? Eventually this is going to get a crew cab with an 8' box to use as a camper.

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Yeasss at last we have a Kansan, my favourite US state.
Very nice and massive potential is that what you chaps call a Duece and a half? Either way I could easy see myself cruising in that from Wichita to the Cimmeron Grasslands . Bout time we had a Kansan on here Welcome.

 

[Silent Earth]

 

[Silent Earth]

 

[Silent Earth]

 

[Silent Earth]

Finest part of the US of A

 

[Brent S]

Well, I was going to upload a picture of my FJ cruiser and prod camper but the file is too large for the server. Whatever that means.... anyways I’m ready to run over zombies and go camping at the same time now! Lol

 

[Brent S]

We had one similar to this but not as tall that we used to take into the woods as a mobile hunting camp. Dual wheels on back just like the one in the picture. There were no roads, not even beaten paths where we took it.

My Toyota looks just like the maroon one here, but in army green. Has the same front grill and extra lights too, but no snorkel.

 

[Maverick]

My go to truck, change out the wheels according to terrain.

1992 Ford F350 with 460bb

 

[EricB1970]

Yeasss at last we have a Kansan, my favourite US state.
Very nice and massive potential is that what you chaps call a Duece and a half? Either way I could easy see myself cruising in that from Wichita to the Cimmeron Grasslands . Bout time we had a Kansan on here Welcome.

My plan is to do something like this. I found this pic on QRZ.com, owned by a fellow Ham in Salina, Kansas. I think it's a great idea.

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[TexasFreedom]

Those are fun. But let me flatten some tires in reality. Where are you going? Yes, they look cool. They look fun. They make us grunt like Tim the Toolman.

But, what is their application in SHTF? A buddy even set aside a pile of plate steel to wrap his truck to go get kids if SHTF (150 miles each way). Reality is this: roads will not exist. Any vehicle that moves will be a target. Paths (roads or otherwise) will be death traps. Full of dead vehicles, blockades every 1/2 mile that even these trucks can't get through.

I really think SHTF will mean lock-down. Go nowhere. Have what you need or do without. You aren't driving to the town grocery store. You aren't going 20 miles to a dentist. Eventually? Sure. But you won't have the fuel to spare nor the confidence that the trip will be successful.

Having said that, I've got a 25,400 lb rated toy hauler. A couple of 1 ton vehicles. Couple of 1/2 ton vehicles, and some smaller ones. But none of them are going anywhere post-SHTF. If there's a 'disaster' (flood, tornado, etc)… sure, they will have a function. But not SHTF.

 

[EricB1970]

Let me copy and paste from a post I just made in another thread, I think it explains my reasoning pretty well:

"As a side note, it always cracks me up when I read and hear about people's survival plans for SHTF. I especially love the vehicle recommendations and discussions. Now, I do own an M35A2 Deuce and a half, and I bought it specifically for a bug out vehicle. I hear a lot about buying a mechanical diesel because they're EMP proof, can run on almost any fuel, etc. This is true, but no one ever talks about maintenance on these vehicles. Especially fluids, let alone hard parts. Where are you going to find brake fluid 5 years after SHTF? 10 years? How about new batteries? Brake hoses and calipers/wheel cylinders? Antifreeze? Transmission fluid? Oil for the engine?

Sure, you can make your own fuel, but can you make your own brake fluid? The coolest most awesomest bug out vehicle in the world is only cool until it needs brake fluid, then it's just another rusting carcass on the side of the road. This is why I get a kick out of the Mad Max movies, there's no way those vehicles will be running 10 years after the apocalypse with no AutoZone open on the corner....."


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[tmttactical]

After the SHTF, it will be shanks mare or the actual mare but it won't be vehicles.

 

[GaRp58]

After SHTF for real, there will be so many stranded vehicles. I will find spare parts, tools, fluids, Coolant, brake parts or simply enough vehicles in underground parking houses that did not suffer EMP. Clothes, vehicles even airplanes will be everywhere. Fuel them up, drive till they die and get another. Road blocks will be bad, Road bandits also. In Croatia, snipers just shot a cars headlights at night. If they missed, oh well. If they hit, they would go and rob whoever it was, friend or foe. Did not matter. Free stuff...Hunker down, wait, watch, calculate, estimate, and then decide. Live quietly, watch, then act. Nobody has the final truth. Like one of our members has quoted:
"the best plans are useless after the first contact with the enemy" or something like that. Everything and every plan can be destroyed by a stronger enemy or a better plan...GP

 

[EricB1970]

After SHTF for real, there will be so many stranded vehicles. I will find spare parts, tools, fluids, Coolant, brake parts or simply enough vehicles in underground parking houses that did not suffer EMP. Clothes, vehicles even airplanes will be everywhere. Fuel them up, drive till they die and get another. Road blocks will be bad, Road bandits also. In Croatia, snipers just shot a cars headlights at night. If they missed, oh well. If they hit, they would go and rob whoever it was, friend or foe. Did not matter. Free stuff...Hunker down, wait, watch, calculate, estimate, and then decide. Live quietly, watch, then act. Nobody has the final truth. Like one of our members has quoted:
"the best plans are useless after the first contact with the enemy" or something like that. Everything and every plan can be destroyed by a stronger enemy or a better plan...GP

That's only going to last for so long though. Better to have a long term plan.


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[Silent Earth]

My plan is to do something like this. I found this pic on QRZ.com, owned by a fellow Ham in Salina, Kansas. I think it's a great idea.

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Neat spacious design, the only thing I would change out is the knobs on the cupboard doors for rebated self locking types like you find on boats. A 2 1/2 may struggle in the long term but in the immediate aftermath and the short / medium term it would make a darn good mobile base to hide in the grasslands.

 

[GaRp58]

Eric, you are right. BUT, post SHTF, nothing will last long that has to do with the "system". Think "stoneage". What is left are non-electric tools, knives, bows & arrows, Gardening tools. Our clothes will last a while, the soap will run out, toilett paper, pencils and pens, paper to write on, plastic bags, shoes, everything in general. We are all planning to survive the SHTF scenario, after that, it is TEOTWAWKI: every man for himself. Self-sufficient with food, water, housing, clothing, hygiene and so forth. Daniel8: scavaging and robbing the looters. Silent Earth and bigpaul: illegal hunting with bow, crossbow and airguns. TexasFreedom: taking out anyone coming near or acting wrong. Rellgar and Maverick: the plans are made in the US and Australia. I'm headed for Hungary: water and garten, near the Donau and good hunting.
After the LRS and stored is gone, we are all cavemen. Just the few will be able to find things still functioning, a company full of alcohol, batteries or even canned food. Rivers and lakes will be over-fished. The woods, over-hunted. The streets, over-run. The mountains, over-filled with bugged out survivors. If we get to be some of the lucky few, mass destruction or self-destruction of much of the 7 billion earthlings will slow down the over-fishing/hunting/eating....Just survive, be quiet, eat only 1000 calories a day, drink and save your water, keep calm with your loved ones and hope to out-wait, our-live and out-survive the war-lords. We will all become hunters and farmers and barter with each other. Hopefully, GP

 

[Silent Earth]

After SHTF for real, there will be so many stranded vehicles. I will find spare parts, tools, fluids, Coolant, brake parts or simply enough vehicles in underground parking houses that did not suffer EMP. Clothes, vehicles even airplanes will be everywhere. Fuel them up, drive till they die and get another. Road blocks will be bad, Road bandits also. In Croatia, snipers just shot a cars headlights at night. If they missed, oh well. If they hit, they would go and rob whoever it was, friend or foe. Did not matter. Free stuff...Hunker down, wait, watch, calculate, estimate, and then decide. Live quietly, watch, then act. Nobody has the final truth. Like one of our members has quoted:
"the best plans are useless after the first contact with the enemy" or something like that. Everything and every plan can be destroyed by a stronger enemy or a better plan...GP

You are assuming WRONGLY that everyone will be in the same boat is the same sort of geography in the same topography in the same circumstances, Generalisations are ALWAYS wrong. what works for Bosnia would not work on the Steppe, would not work on the coast, would not work on islands, would not work in the jungle or desert.

 

[GaRp58]

Neat spacious design, the only thing I would change out is the knobs on the cupboard doors for rebated self locking types like you find on boats. A 2 1/2 may struggle in the long term but in the immediate aftermath and the short / medium term it would make a darn good mobile base to hide in the grasslands.

I think you're right, to get the hell out of dodge, deuce and a half would go anywhere to avoid the stopped up roads, through fields and woods, climb many small hills and give you a good headstart to Bug-out. It only has to get you away from the mobs in the city and far away enough that nobody would try to walk so far to even try to find you. It would carry most of your pantry, equipment and family easily. With any trailer, definitely, but not in-definitely. Large petrol tank, good water wading depth and heavy load-bearing. Just too loud for hiding!! GP

 

[GaRp58]

Just have to adapt and learn rapidly on the run and between the rock and the hard place, SE. Your plans should work for you where you are. The same plans in the same place would possibly not function with a man/family without the same abilities as you. We are each unique in our abilities and usage of each of our tools. We will all be faced with changing things, weather, situation and stages of health. Do we not have that same situation everyday at the moment without the S having H the F? Gary

 

[Silent Earth]

Eric, you are right. BUT, post SHTF, nothing will last long that has to do with the "system". Think "stoneage". What is left are non-electric tools, knives, bows & arrows, Gardening tools. Our clothes will last a while, the soap will run out, toilett paper, pencils and pens, paper to write on, plastic bags, shoes, everything in general. We are all planning to survive the SHTF scenario, after that, it is TEOTWAWKI: every man for himself. Self-sufficient with food, water, housing, clothing, hygiene and so forth. Daniel8: scavaging and robbing the looters. Silent Earth and bigpaul: illegal hunting with bow, crossbow and airguns. TexasFreedom: taking out anyone coming near or acting wrong. Rellgar and Maverick: the plans are made in the US and Australia. I'm headed for Hungary: water and garten, near the Donau and good hunting.
After the LRS and stored is gone, we are all cavemen. Just the few will be able to find things still functioning, a company full of alcohol, batteries or even canned food. Rivers and lakes will be over-fished. The woods, over-hunted. The streets, over-run. The mountains, over-filled with bugged out survivors. If we get to be some of the lucky few, mass destruction or self-destruction of much of the 7 billion earthlings will slow down the over-fishing/hunting/eating....Just survive, be quiet, eat only 1000 calories a day, drink and save your water, keep calm with your loved ones and hope to out-wait, our-live and out-survive the war-lords. We will all become hunters and farmers and barter with each other. Hopefully, GP

Again generalisations that are likely to be wrong, I have friends who do charity work in South America, India and Africa and they keep their ancient cordless power tools going using solar and wind systems to recharge cordless batteries. heck even the batteries get rebuilt in some places with salvaged cells.

I suggest the MASSES will be screwed but those who plan and with foresight will continue to thrive. It many (not all) cases it will take at least a century to end up in a stone age situation and that is asuming no one bothers rto start making stuff again.

Where I do agree with many worst case scenarios is twofold (a) millions will flee to the countryside where most will (b) likely die from DISEASE and STARVATION, NOTe the MOST word, even in the absolute worst of circumstances SOME survive and those with enough skill with thrive.

Another minor criticism (sorry bout that) is you are also assuming the preps we discuss here will be (a) all what we have available which is wrong and (b) our plans are not already in place to access other tools, supplies, logistics,fuels, foods etc even location etc .

Assuming and Generalisations for your own circumstances are fine, but they never apply to everyone else.

 

[Silent Earth]

I think you're right, to get the hell out of dodge, deuce and a half would go anywhere to avoid the stopped up roads, through fields and woods, climb many small hills and give you a good headstart to Bug-out. It only has to get you away from the mobs in the city and far away enough that nobody would try to walk so far to even try to find you. It would carry most of your pantry, equipment and family easily. With any trailer, definitely, but not in-definitely. Large petrol tank, good water wading depth and heavy load-bearing. Just too loud for hiding!! GP

Where that particular 2 1/2 lives in an area where I actually lived briefly and I know the ground and the place is almost empty compared to Europe, the land is a corrugated as an egg box, the lands ripples in all directions. YES any camp could be detected from the air, but on the ground you could hide an entire mobile division in the undulating ground. A good AWD truck in low can go far from any road or graded track and entirely vanish into the hollows in the tundra. SW KS, NW OK, NE NM, SE CO is huge and mainly empty. They would have to be very self contained cos water is a helluva an issue out there, but its always windy so they can generate power. I do think they would struggle to find enough game, but relying on game is stupid anyway. My late friend and I actually went hunting white tail once and we thought we had the land to ourselves, we drove in, parked up, made coffee, we heard and saw NOTHING, then we set off on foot. YET only 500 meters downwind of us was a Local National guard unit on a signals exercise. 6 vehicles and trailers blended perfectly into the terrain. I **** myself when we stumbled into them because I ( at the time) was supposed to be a fully swirched on Light Infantry Sergeant.

 

[Silent Earth]

One other pointer about much of Fly Over land ( the great plains) that many forget is that most of it was (much still is) grassland / tundra , much is used forgrain and corn. BUT the land is quite firm 99% of the time and you can literally drive ( carefully in 4wd) for crazy distances away from any road. The disadvantage in place is off course you can see someone coming from miles away if the ground is just level ( which a lot is) but get away from the road and into the hollows in the ground and you can go crazy distances. I would use the Duece and Half as a mobile base, out in the boonies near a water source, but to get the benefit of the terrain I would choose ponies or quads.

 

[GaRp58]

YET only 500 meters downwind of us was a Local National guard unit on a signals exercise. 6 vehicles and trailers blended perfectly into the terrain. I **** myself when we stumbled into them

Well trained National Guard in camo and noise reduction. Sounds like a gift of the gods to teach you a small lesson about how keen your senses can be and also how well the ememy can hide...Your critic is always welcome.

Germany mixed mountains and flat, Hungary is flat with a few hills but lots of water and lakes. Each of us plan for one thing, what if we plan one way and the weather or a forest/tundra fire forces us to un-ass the AO. The hunting, fishing, scavange, cannibalisation, re-cycling, up-cycling and re-use of all things found will take hold fast, assuming we survive the first times.

Long range, not all will be destroyed, many small towns will not even see much action. They are like small families, depending on each other at the moment and also after SHTF. Islands in Greece, towns in Rumania, Poland and Russia too. Highlanders in Scotland. Fjords in Norway or Sweden. Mountain men in Alaska or Siberia.
Different people, different climates, terrain and equipments are needed...GP