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Peace over arguing, debating, and drama.
I have a little bit of an issue with the whole, "feelings are never wrong" thing. If feelings contradict reality, then something needs to be done about that. I've seen too many people use their "feelings" to control and manipulate others...
I get what you are saying about feelings. I have seen them used many times to manipulate others. One family of cousins could cry at the drop of a hat (not sure tears were always involved, but the act of crying was) because they "wanted" something that someone else had, that belonged to the person holding it. They were always defended in that. "Give it to her." Their father died, and many years later, just the mention of his name broke them out into tears, while my siblings and I were punished if we cried about our mother, not long after her death. She was 30, their father was 61. It is never easy to lose a parent, but their crying was manufactured for the purpose of their manipulation. I never once heard anyone in that family have any concern for the death of my mother, just them and theirs. And this happens to be a group of narcissistic people.I have a little bit of an issue with the whole, "feelings are never wrong" thing. If feelings contradict reality, then something needs to be done about that. I've seen too many people use their "feelings" to control and manipulate others...
I do understand what your post was trying to say though, about trying to invalidate valid feelings. It's just that feelings aren't ALWAYS valid...
In the groups that I follow about narcissism, it is the more important days in someone else's life that narcissists use to steal the spotlight: weddings, birthdays, anniversaries, birth of babies, graduations. It is the scapegoats who are often the true victims in this.We're trying to work with 16 yr old granddaughter regarding this. She will have a major meltdown at certain times, and it's appearing that it's for attention. Like when company is here. She will sob and make a mountain out of a molehill. Has done it the last three times we've had houseguests. Reminds me of mom who insisted she had a medical emergency on our anniversary. We spent most of the day in urgent care, and she was fine.
Feelings can be used as a manipulation. Makes you wonder if they're true feelings.
I once had a guy tell me that women "emote" and that is what is wrong with them. After hearing him talk for a little while, I realized what a woman hater he was.I attended a course 30 or more years ago about customer relations called "Feelings". I took it all to heart and it served me well during my career.
One of the key lessons was that feeling being something people experience personally they can not be tested and proven true or false. This fed the follow up idea that when discussing any topic it is advantageous to use the the phrase "I feel" rather than "I think". The former can't be argued while the later can.
Eg
"I feel we should dig the hole here."
" think we should dig the hole here."
It works great when arguing with people.
Ben
Confession time!I once had a guy tell me that women "emote" and that is what is wrong with them. After hearing him talk for a little while, I realized what a woman hater he was.
My mom's brothers are criers. There are certain things that come up in discussions that cause the tears to flow. My cousins told me that when my Mom died, it was the first time they saw their dad, Mom's brother, cry.Confession time!
I am a crier.
Any discussion of God's amazing nature, the blessings he has given me, or act of self sacrifice i an Niagara Falls.
The boss I worked for 20+ years told me it made him think twice about offering me a job because job interviews are all about past accomplishments. But talking technical I was rock solid.
Ben
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