WWIII

[GaRp58]

I’ve seen several different opinions of how long it will take after the sh*t truly hits the fan for folks to attack others. With all your experience Gary I would love to know how long do you think it will be?

Hi lady, I have seen too many situations to be able to sort them out into a pattern. None of them can be stuck into a certain "drawer" and be replicated. Each scenario is so different.
The fast ones come from earthquakes and tornados. You have only time to run into the cellar or out of the house/building.
The slow ones come from hurricanes, forest fires and floodings. You have time to get food, water, fuel and such...but you never know if you will need them or HAVE ENOUGH of each since you do not know for certain if and or how you will be personally and directly affected.
The fastest ones have only occured with lightning strikes, explosions and mass shootings. You have absolutely NO TIME to plan, react or have the right answer to what is happening. You are already affected and either are in the middle and get killed or so near that you just got blessed/lucky? to be alive still.
The wierd ones come from nearby unexpected tragedies and car accidents. You see it coming, know what it can do, have the time to think and even react, but of the several possible reactions, your training, skill, situation awareness, available space you have already prepared while driving or even walking/jogging and especially how much you must weigh-in on according to those around you, in your car with you and their strengths and prepardness since you saw it early enough to cry out a warning to get them ready for "impact" and demanding them to take evasive action or to just get as far away as possible so you can concentrate on "working" and not also need to worry about them at the same time.
My wife KNOWS that if anything happens in a restaurant, bar, movie, shopping mall or even a flea market...take cover, get under a table, go lock herself into a toilet...just GET OUT OF MY WAY so you also do not get hurt when I go into BLACKOUT mode and only react to the decades of training and the experience with such situations.
I have done the hurricanes (4), tornados (3), car accidents (50-60), fires (2), explosions (war), snipers (2),
shootings (4), earthquakes (2) and floodings (3). None of them were the same.
I have watched family members freak out and not be able to help injured and even dying their own and I had to save them medically in car accidents.
I cleared a home of a family shooting and found the wife with a bullet hole in her forehead and held her wrist and felt the last heartbeats.
I have to say to answer your original question: each person has their own limits, borders and abilities.
Each person, even those you would trust to do the right thing and they have said the right things you would need to HEAR from them, will react to every situation under duress, stress and danger, they will either TAKE ACTION from real experience, OR FREEZE up and not be able to do anything. Their age, sex or intelligence does not make any difference. Their mindset, heartset and inner strength will take over, or they will run for their lives and leave you behind to fend for yourself. AND THESE THINGS WILL HAPPEN until your relationship with them has gone thru FIRE BEFOREHAND. Only then, will you KNOW what someone will do. Until then, trust no-one, be ready to fight for yourself and your loved ones.
When the SHTF, each person only has the LAWS WRITTEN IN THEIR HEARTS as their are no more on paper.
When the SHTF, be prepared to be alone or with very few trust-able persons and be ready for the situation of:
""the only fight is one over LIFE AND DEATH....my LIFE and your DEATH....""
Hard words for hard times sister, live free, Gary

 

[poltiregist]

I was watching a news anchor yesterday talking about what was proper to tell the public by either a news anchor or a countries' leader . As we all know as preppers we can not depend on most news sources to report the news as it " might Panick the population " . Today and tomorrow we are at a critical and dangerous point of an full blown world war 3 . This forum's members need to try to get the true information out to our members as the critical hours tick by . -- Run through your minds of the first , second or third things you need to do if it starts and have things ready . For instance , my first action is to cover my garden to protect the soil . I figure considering my location have at least half a day before the fallout cloud approaches my survival grounds . Good luck to you all .

 

[poltiregist]

Jet Stream | Wind Maps | Weather Underground Keep in mind the direction the fallout will be traveling to reach you today . The map should give some perspective as to which targets the blast will send the radioactive fallout enroute to your location .

 

[Mountain trapper]

If the weaklings in the US government keep poking the bear, we'll be in a war soon enough. Of course there's no question that we'll loose it after spending a few trillion $$.

 

[poltiregist]

I have been monitoring today non-televised news sources on the looming nuclear conflict . Those that depend on their television for news don't seem to have any concept of what is going on as it isn't being put on television . For any that hasn't been going around the government sanctioned televised news , I will only say it is likely far worse than they know .

 

[Cindyd]

Jet Stream | Wind Maps | Weather Underground Keep in mind the direction the fallout will be traveling to reach you today . The map should give some perspective as to which targets the blast will send the radioactive fallout enroute to your location .

Fallout reach us today? No comprende? Did something happen today? I worked all day...no issues except storm knocked out power short time. Back on now. I'm a bit confused....(as usual)...oh well, going to bed...I'm whooped! Whatever is going on that I don't understand...love y'all patriots! Have a good night.

 

[EastenerWesterner]

@GaRp58 I guess your grill party looks good for tomorrow. I hate it when things dont work around the schedule.
Sarcasim.
I will say this one got me to top everything off. Not WWIII, but more like the war from within.


edit-guess its not going to work here. In a nutshell-They are going to cut the grid off, do away with Trump,and bring everything back when they have full control.

 

[poltiregist]

Fallout reach us today? No comprende? Did something happen today? I worked all day...no issues except storm knocked out power short time. Back on now. I'm a bit confused....(as usual)...oh well, going to bed...I'm whooped! Whatever is going on that I don't understand...love y'all patriots! Have a good night.

As of now " not any " nuclear blasts . The wind directions and current was given in preparation . If it does happen today the sources for all weather information will be basically non-existent . Too late at that point to try to learn from what city or other target would the jet stream be pushing the fallout to your location . You would be lucky just to find out which targets were hit .

 

[Psalm7]

Watch what is happening in Russia . It involves more than the Wagner Group . Putin may be pushed to resort to drastic measures .

 

[M0del_31]

So the media says the Russian forces killed some Wagner group forces. The media doesn't seem curious as to why? What changed? Friendly fire, something else or elaborate diversion?

 

[poltiregist]

Something seems to have taken a drastic change . If this is a coup we can expect nukes to fly as Putin's henchmen have been clamoring to use their nukes .

 

[user 7368]

I think there is a plan behind it, Wagner will not be so crazy to sacrifice 25`000 of his men on a suicide mission.
Most of his mercenaries would have jumped off and never marched towards Moscow if there was no plan behind it.
It may well be that Moscow is planning an internal coup and Wagner's action is part of the plan, we will know more in a few hours.

Anyway, if Putin is overthrown and replaced by another, the West will get big problems, every potential successor of Putin advocates a harder (or nuclear) line towards the West.

 

[Psalm7]

The Wagner Comander gives his reasons . Mostly Russia quit supplying them and left them to die . Also Russian artillery fired on them probably because they weren't making enough headway . Wagner cannot surrender to the Ukrainians because of the Wagner groups methods . They fear death or worst at the hands of Ukrainians .

 

[GaRp58]

AND I SAY. beware of false stories, fake news and hologram/cgi movies being played on the screen...
Remember...we all SAW Forrest Gump shake hands WITH JFK.....you will not believe they can do...

 

[Psalm7]

Some things fall into the . We report You decide categories . People aren't as vulnerable as some would think . When you hear someone screaming that everybody needs to wake up . They are probably the ones that need to " wake up " .

 

[Dani]

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/06/breaking-rebelling-wagner-troops-stand-down-after-reaching/

 

[rainingcatzanddogs]

I think there is a plan behind it, Wagner will not be so crazy to sacrifice 25`000 of his men on a suicide mission.
Most of his mercenaries would have jumped off and never marched towards Moscow if there was no plan behind it.
It may well be that Moscow is planning an internal coup and Wagner's action is part of the plan, we will know more in a few hours.

Anyway, if Putin is overthrown and replaced by another, the West will get big problems, every potential successor of Putin advocates a harder (or nuclear) line towards the West.

From what I read yesterday, the leader of Wagner, likes Putin but is blaming all of the issues/shortcomings etc on the Defense minister who he has stated should be removed from office along with several others. Says the defense minister has been lying to Putin.
I don't think Putin is going anywhere.

 

[Dani]

I'll say that I woke up to son 1 sending information on the Wagner troops making a Civil War in Russia. He hates Russia and believes that they had a bounty on our military during the Afghan war (which would have been his unit in his mind since he was deployed there during that time). There is still no proof of that, even reported by the MSN.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/na...still-hasn-t-established-russia-paid-n1240020https://search.brave.com/search?q=Russia+had+a+bounty+on+US+military+during&source=desktopHis Dad sent him, I think it was the Blaze link about the Wagner group backing down.
He HATES Russians, and I can honestly understand with all the propaganda going on for YEARS now. He eventually woke up with all the Covid Propaganda, only after he took the first 2 shots and then devloped heart issues. My hope is he will see what is actually happening in this war too. I can only say little tid bits. It's up to him to come to a conclusion.

 

[Mountain Dragon]

Just have seen on Russia Today the problem seems to be solved and the Wagner Group is turnaround and goes home.
We'll see whats going on the next days.

 

[Psalm7]

Just have seen on Russia Today the problem seems to be solved and the Wagner Group is turnaround and goes home.
We'll see whats going on the next days.

No way the Putin government let's that go . Also there's that old soviet mentality of not letting a underling getting the lime light .

 

[Mountain Dragon]

No way the Putin government let's that go . Also there's that old soviet mentality of not letting a underling getting the lime light .

Honestly it's not my business if Moscow let them go or not.
As long they don't find $ or € and western ammo i look at it as an russian problem.
But agree with you, Russia may will let them go in the darkness.

 

[rainingcatzanddogs]

I'll say that I woke up to son 1 sending information on the Wagner troops making a Civil War in Russia. He hates Russia and believes that they had a bounty on our military during the Afghan war (which weould have been his since he was deployed there during that time). There is still no proof of that, even reported by the MSN.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/na...still-hasn-t-established-russia-paid-n1240020https://search.brave.com/search?q=Russia+had+a+bounty+on+US+military+during&source=desktopHis Dad sent him, I think it was the Blaze link about the Wagner group backing down.
He HATES Russians, and I can honestly understand with all the propaganda going on for YEARS now. He eventually woke up with all the Covid Propaganda, only after he took the first 2 shots and then devloped heart issues. My hope is he will see what is actually happening in this war too. I can only say little tid bits. It's up to him to come to a conclusion.

I like Russians just fine. Have a couple of friends from there. It is Totalitarians I don't much care for.

 

[poltiregist]

--- More confirmation , we are on the precipice of a Nuclear World War 3 . Ignoring where we are today is apparently the strategy of many , as if it is not talked about it will go away and our present daily lives will not change . -- I prefer to face and prepare with the hope of overcoming .

 

[Dani]

Yeah, unfortunately so many have no clue and if I bring it up I get the deer in headlights look, then it quickly goes away and normal life continues.

 

[Mountain trapper]

I have no idea if we're heading towards a nuclear war or not. My gut says no, but I could be wrong. I don't pay much attention to the sad sack doom and gloomers. One thing that I am pretty confident about, is if Biden gets reelected that he'll start a war somewhere in the world. He won't have to worry about getting elected again so he can do all kinds of damage before he leaves office.

 

[poltiregist]

I thought we might could share our last preparation lists . --Mine fuel , chain oil and such for the chainsaw . Though I have some two man cross cut saws , plan to use my chainsaw as long as possible for firewood for heating and cooking . -- I have lots of food stored but it would be nice to have popcorn , the type that you can pop in a skillet over a fire . -- I have stored but thought I would mention fire-starting ability such as matches or even more primitive fire starting capabilities . I like to cheat and use charcoal lighter fluid to build fires in my wood heater . Water to tide us over while the radiation is too strong to venture outside . Perhaps others would like to jar our prepper minds to other things we might need .

 

[Cindyd]

That video implies putin would be one planning to blow nuclear plant which basically would end him in a world of **** and doesn't tout him as expected to be very successful. No mention of possibility that US or other could be involved as ones plotting to blow it..and blame it on russia..thus them intentionally instigating a war. Personally, I don't see it presenting Russia as much of an actual successful threat..so i'm missing something in regard to the fear tactic if that is what's intended from this one...

At least canadian prepper throws a "holy ****" in there once in a while and grabs his head for drama effect..talks out of both sides of his mouth..to cover his arse admitting he "could" be wrong...but has finally announced he recently started his off grid cabin...lol

I've no idea what's gonna happen..I am preparing as best I can in event some of these alleged gurus are eventually right..I'm not convinced of annihilation via nuclear war, but am convinced of ongoing decline and terrible times to come..how long/when exactly....no clue. If it happens soon, I'm looking forward to seeing the other side, so be it...if not, I've got work now scheduled as of this week into October and making plans for that..I did jump back n forth today to get 20 more lbs of ground turkey canned for the dogs and 20 more of ground beef canned up for us..I put in orders for more stuff to come..so ain't stopping adding to the preps until I'm forced to do so.

To be clear, not arguing is or isn't. Just trying to be patient, do best I can and see what comes.

 

[Proud Prepper]

I thought we might could share our last preparation lists . --Mine fuel , chain oil and such for the chainsaw . Though I have some two man cross cut saws , plan to use my chainsaw as long as possible for firewood for heating and cooking . -- I have lots of food stored but it would be nice to have popcorn , the type that you can pop in a skillet over a fire . -- I have stored but thought I would mention fire-starting ability such as matches or even more primitive fire starting capabilities . I like to cheat and use charcoal lighter fluid to build fires in my wood heater . Water to tide us over while the radiation is too strong to venture outside . Perhaps others would like to jar our prepper minds to other things we might need .

Water filters. I recommend a t filter system, one as a prefilter the other as your main filter to change as needed.

 

[Cindyd]

I've been trying to add to knives, tools, parts for all yard equipment and tools, fuel (sent son out today to fill about 20 more gallon gas...and more extra propane. Vet supplies for animals..Continue to add to food supply n water...medicines, prescribed and otc, vitamins, healthy energy drinks n food, (antibiotics, etc)..more wound care/first aid, more solar operated items, more ammo. Feel like I'm busting at seems now, but then take another count and realize need more! The list seemingly never ends! I'm working on rabbits...gonna have son shoot some squirrel to put in freezer and can. I think my pond could stand to be stocked with more fish. Plenty of water filter supplies but am ordering water distiller been on my list forever...could use another back up generator...and the list goes on...other than that I'm pretty good shape! Haa!

My biggest dilemma is added human support..big deal! Larry can't do squat..I have 83 yr old mother and 2 strong boys, that's it...no tribe ..just us!

I am having some work done around property to help secure it better around perimeters...hopefully they can start next week...assuming S don't HTF as some predict prior to! Lord give me just one more week or two or three! OR...

 

[Psalm7]

Just something I finding interesting .
I know a guy that primarily works radar and air defense for the DOD . One of his primary projects is the Patriot system .
Not long after the Patriots reached Ukraine Russia fired one of their latest hypersonic missiles at Kiev . The Patriot ran the numbers and intercepted it just like it would any other air threat .