Australia Lockdowns

[Ling31]

The victors get to write the history books.
He was an extremely unpopular President before, and during the early part of the war, even in the north.

I guess the opinions on President Lincoln vary.especially over a warring divided nation at the time. Father Charles Chiniqy spent quite a few occasions with President Lincoln in person and through letters during and before Abraham Lincolns presidency. He testifies strongly of the truthfulness of the president along with the weight of the civil war he had to bear. He confided in Father Chiniquy that hidden enemies did abound that were seeking out his life. Yes he was unliked especially with a nation divided in a civil war. But what of noble men like general Lee and many other Confederate heroes that have had their statutes taken down because they are not liked by some who find them politically incorrect and racially divisive of which they were not. And that had been happening long before BLM started tearing statues down.. You may find Father Chiniqiquys testimony of Abraham Lincoln most interesting.

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[DrHenley]

I do believe that if Lincoln hadn't been assassinated, things would have gone much better for the South and we might have avoided the disastrous results of Reconstruction.

Remember what I said - "The victors get to write the history books."
What do you know about Lincoln that you didn't read in a book? Most likely a history book.
Lincoln achieved sainthood by being martyred.

If they haven't all been burned, archives of what northern newspapers were editorializing about Lincoln (before they got shut down for so doing) might give some balance to what is in the history books. Political dissent was dealt with harshly.

Rioters in New York City in 1863, fighting Union soldiers

 

[Ling31]

I do believe that if Lincoln hadn't been assassinated, things would have gone much better for the South and we might have avoided the disastrous results of Reconstruction.

Remember what I said - "The victors get to write the history books."
What do you know about Lincoln that you didn't read in a book? Most likely a history book.
Lincoln achieved sainthood by being martyred.

If they haven't all been burned, archives of what northern newspapers were editorializing about Lincoln (before they got shut down for so doing) might give some balance to what is in the history books. Political dissent was dealt with harshly.

Rioters in New York City in 1863, fighting Union soldiers

I’m sure your right the nation would have healed much quicker under president Lincoln. As to reconstruction I thought it was deconstruction that the North showered upon the South with the South never fully recovering until the turn of the 20th century lots of concentration camps the North did introduce. The first nation to do so even before the boar wars. As to the Victors always writing the history I would disagree. While we still have independent publications and free press as much as that is now being hindered more and more with each passing year. Then we still have a multitude of sources to call upon to seek out truth even if they take awhile to surface. Legally the Southern states had every right to secede. The matter of fort Sumter was that the union was supposed to vacate all such forts in confederate territory. The reason for Fort Sumter being attacked was exactly that the union weren’t leaving anytime soon. Quite the opposite they had ship loads of soldiers and supplies already sailing in transit to reinforce fort Sumter. The reality being that the Union never had any intentions of ever letting the South go. Was the issue really about slavery or the rich and powerful northern industrialists wanting to destroy the power of the South. As it seems that Slavery was really on the way out. Just a matter of when. There be so many political intrigues to look into when it comes to researching both the North or the South.

 

[Amish Heart]

Thought it was more about state's rights, and the federal govt being overbearing. Slavery being secondary

 

[M0del_31]

Thought it was more about state's rights, and the federal govt being overbearing. Slavery being secondary

War is almost always about money, power and resources.

 

[DrHenley]

Slavery was a huge issue, no doubt.
How is this for a bit of irony: Creepy Joe's home state of Delaware? The emancipation proclamation didn't cover Delaware, or any of the other slave states that stayed in the Union. Delaware was a slave state until the Thirteenth Amendment was ratified seven months after the end of the war.

The biggest problem with Reconstruction was that Confederate veterans were not allowed to vote or hold office for ten years after the war. That is what caused the lasting hatred of the North and was also the root of most racial division in the South. For a while after the war there were deprivations of citizens by Union soldiers, mostly black. Not wholesale raping and pillaging, but looting that was encouraged by the officers. That's what led to the formation of the KKK and other vigilante organizations like the Delta Rangers. Another bit of irony for you: The most famous Delta Ranger was black - Holt Collier.

 

[DrHenley]

https://theconservativetreehouse.co...ralia-and-what-his-group-is-doing-to-stop-it/

 

[andrewOz]

I’m sure your right the nation would have healed much quicker under president Lincoln.

I doubt it.

 

[Ling31]

I doubt it.

You doubt it. Why ? Surely the retribution from the Union would not have been as harsh if President Lincoln had lived and not been assassinated.

 

[andrewOz]

You doubt it. Why ? Surely the retribution from the Union would not have been as harsh if President Lincoln had lived and not been assassinated.

My perspective is an opinion, just as yours is.
I did not ask you to justify your opinion.
Your statement "the retribution from the Union would not have been as harsh . . ." is also just an opinion . . . and I will not ask you to justify that opinion either.

 

[DrHenley]

I doubt it.

Lincoln offered full amnesty and restoration of rights to everyone except the generals, officers who had been commission officers of the United States, and Confederate government officials in his Amnesty Proclamation. He wanted healing, not retribution after the war.
https://teachingamericanhistory.org/document/proclamation-of-amnesty-and-reconstruction/
When he died, that offer was taken off the table by Congressmen who were out for blood. "Reconstruction" became nothing more that retaliatory punishment for every soldier of the Confederacy.

 

[Ling31]

My perspective is an opinion, just as yours is.
I did not ask you to justify your opinion.
Your statement "the retribution from the Union would not have been as harsh . . ." is also just an opinion . . . and I will not ask you to justify that opinion either.

Well thanks for your perspective and your opinion. But mine is based on the harsh realities of what happened to the South at wars end with the assassination of President Lincoln.

 

[Alan Ui Niall]

I thought it would be a good idea to have a thread on the Australian lockdowns. I know we have talked about them in other post and I really feel like this is the way Joe is trying to take the US. . . They are just farther along in this process. If you have been paying attention it is BAD! You can not go to the beach, you can not even visit the cemetery.

Aussie construction workers in Melbourne are not allowed to eat inside if they aren’t vaxed. So they blocked off the road and setup to eat lunch outside.
Peaceful demonstrations and sit-ins are highly effective.
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Peaceful protesting has achieved nothing, writing letters has achieved nothing, signing petitions has achieved nothing. The government has been bought and sold by big pharm and the globalists, insaying that many globalists have infiltrated every level of government. We have one hope which is the United Australia Party winning elections. If elections get rigged, then only one thing will change the course of history, as waiting out the storm is not an option. And that is for every capable person to take arms and arrest or put down every treasonous politician, bureaucrat and communist enabler.

 

[Amish Heart]

Well, you have another hope if you become self sufficient. Hope in yourself and your family.
You won't need anything from your govt and politicians if you can do for yourself.
You can't have capable Australians take up arms because you gave up that right. Oh well.

 

[EastenerWesterner]

Lincoln offered full amnesty and restoration of rights to everyone except the generals, officers who had been commission officers of the United States, and Confederate government officials in his Amnesty Proclamation. He wanted healing, not retribution after the war.
https://teachingamericanhistory.org/document/proclamation-of-amnesty-and-reconstruction/
When he died, that offer was taken off the table by Congressmen who were out for blood. "Reconstruction" became nothing more that retaliatory punishment for every soldier of the Confederacy.

Having spent the 3 most miserable years of my life in the Land of Lincoln, what I learned in the historical sites there, this was true. That is until woke history changes it.
Lincoln’s house, New Springfield, Lincoln’s Tomb. Everything I learned in the 60/70’s was reiterated.
Most impressive was his tomb. Seeing the coffin gave me chills.

 

[Helen Back]

WEIRD: Western Australia Reportedly Has No COVID, Vaccinations Continue, But Hospitals Are Overwhelmed

 

[Ling31]

WEIRD: Western Australia Reportedly Has No COVID, Vaccinations Continue, But Hospitals Are Overwhelmed

Well it’s either the vaccine shot having diversified affects. Certainly not the flu season with summer now upon us. And that’s the thing our hospital system here in Queensland is not overwhelmed and neither in any of the other states that have had Covid far worse. Maybe Heath care numbers and shortages will be effected by those staff who refuse the ***. But for places like Western Australia Covid has been a non event. All I know is their premier is just another tyrant keeping his boarders closed for eternity it seems. Simply relying on the milk cow of WA that being the coal exports to keep his state afloat. The story of Australia they do say for the last 50 yrs is about a country that has never really capitalised on its wealth to become a safe haven and power house for Liberty that it could have been

 

[Helen Back]

They are acting like it's Ebola. One person tested positive; everyone hide in your beds and pull the sheets over your head. Don't even answer your telephone!

 

[Dani]

WEIRD: Western Australia Reportedly Has No COVID, Vaccinations Continue, But Hospitals Are Overwhelmed

I just read a report this morning that our hospitals are being overwhelmed too. . . mostly by heart conditions, strokes and abdominal pains. Just yesterday, I had a fully vaccinate co-worker come into my area saying that she has been having problems sleeping due to her abdominal pains. Experiencing nausea, throwing up and diarrhea.

 

[DrJenner]

I just read a report this morning that our hospitals are being overwhelmed too. . . mostly by heart conditions, strokes and abdominal pains. Just yesterday, I had a fully vaccinate co-worker come into my area saying that she has been having problems sleeping due to her abdominal pains. Experiencing nausea, throwing up and diarrhea.

Does she eat a lot of hot cheetos?
Heart conditions/strokes - yes - all these heart surgeries that have been put off because we have been overwhelmed with COVID are now starting up again. Our cardiothoracic surgeons are even scheduling cases on weekends to get caught up.
Imagine needing a coronary bypass surgery pretty urgently and having to wait months, hoping you don't have a cardiac arrest in the meantime. Scary for these people.

 

[DrJenner]

Also, I'm not being flippant on the hot cheeto thing. It's real. Can't tell you how many people in the ER go there for abdominal pain after eating hot cheetos. I'm sure some of the others who work ER in here can attest.

 

[DrHenley]

I love those things, LOL. They don't bother my stomach, but they sometimes send my heart into a tizzy. I had to swear off of them.

 

[DrJenner]

My kids love them too. I can't do it. Hurts my stomach . I haven't looked at the ingredient list, but it can't be good.

 

[DrHenley]

My kids love them too. I can't do it. Hurts my stomach . I haven't looked at the ingredient list, but it can't be good.

Enriched Corn Meal (Corn Meal, Ferrous Sulfate, Niacin, Thiamin Mononitrate, Riboflavin, Folic Acid), Vegetable Oil (Corn, Canola, and/or Sunflower Oil), Xxtra FLAMIN' HOT® Seasoning (Salt, Maltodextrin [Made From Corn], Sugar, Yeast Extract, Monosodium Glutamate, Citric Acid, Artificial Color [Red 40 Lake, Yellow 6 Lake, Yellow 6, Yellow 5], Sunflower Oil, Hydrolyzed Corn Protein, Cheddar Cheese [Milk, Cheese Cultures, Salt, Enzymes], Onion Powder, Whey, Natural Flavor, Garlic Powder, Whey Protein Concentrate, Buttermilk, Corn Syrup Solids, Sodium Diacetate), and Salt. CONTAINS MILK INGREDIENTS.

 

[DrJenner]

Enriched Corn Meal (Corn Meal, Ferrous Sulfate, Niacin, Thiamin Mononitrate, Riboflavin, Folic Acid), Vegetable Oil (Corn, Canola, and/or Sunflower Oil), Xxtra FLAMIN' HOT® Seasoning (Salt, Maltodextrin [Made From Corn], Sugar, Yeast Extract, Monosodium Glutamate, Citric Acid, Artificial Color [Red 40 Lake, Yellow 6 Lake, Yellow 6, Yellow 5], Sunflower Oil, Hydrolyzed Corn Protein, Cheddar Cheese [Milk, Cheese Cultures, Salt, Enzymes], Onion Powder, Whey, Natural Flavor, Garlic Powder, Whey Protein Concentrate, Buttermilk, Corn Syrup Solids, Sodium Diacetate), and Salt. CONTAINS MILK INGREDIENTS.

Doesn't look horrible except for all the processed stuff. Ugh.

 

[DrJenner]

Yep here it is! I promise I wasn't being facetious! Its the spicy stuff in them
https://www.menshealth.com/health/a...s-gut-health-gastroenterologist-sameer-islam/

 

[DrHenley]

The flaming hot Cheetos are child's play.
These are the real deals:

 

[Dostoyevsky]

WEIRD: Western Australia Reportedly Has No COVID, Vaccinations Continue, But Hospitals Are Overwhelmed

I was at a meeting this morning (in South Australia) and one of the speakers there was a nurse with 37 years experience -- now losing her job at one of the major hospitals because she won't take the ***. She said the hospitals in this state are all full of vaccinated patients who have had adverse reactions. (We've had virtually no covid here.)

 

[Ling31]

I was at a meeting this morning (in South Australia) and one of the speakers there was a nurse with 37 years experience -- now losing her job at one of the major hospitals because she won't take the ***. She said the hospitals in this state are all full of vaccinated patients who have had adverse reactions. (We've had virtually no covid here.)

everything seems contradictory from the government statements to the actual facts. Australia should have been one of the First Nations to be free and getting on with life. Instead we can find ourselves under the reality of continual lockdowns and draconian laws any time of the day of the year with no end in site. There be something diabolically evil going on behind closed doors. I can sense it. Though I’m not sure of of it final objective. All I know is something evil and foreboding does come our way..

 

[GeorgiaPeachie]

I love those things, LOL. They don't bother my stomach, but they sometimes send my heart into a tizzy. I had to swear off of them.

Did you see where a little 8 year old boy wanted some of those so badly he started his own business? Quite the young man! Him, his mother and baby sister were living in a Shed. No bathroom, no kitchen, only a twin bed they shared. Aaron started his business growing and selling plants. He now has 32,000 followers on Instagram and they now live in an apartment. Someone started a GoFundMe for him and his family, which has received $68,000. His little plant business is growing too!