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Concern about missing members
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Nothing from Sentry in months.
When an environment changes for any reason, animals (including human animals) will adjust to change. "Some" animals (including some human animals) will be quicker to react to any "change" in environment.
This discussion is quite relevant to "Prepping & Survival".
This discussion is quite relevant to "Prepping & Survival".
Me and bad nickles, geez whats a nickel? so just me hangs aroundOk, wander off if y'all must!!
I sure hope you hang aroundMe and bad nickles, geez whats a nickel? so just me hangs around
High on my list is a high speed internet connection, I'm worse than a tick.I sure hope you hang around
Can I just be the ignorant one to ask outright?
So we are talking op-sec and all the @I and monitoring of everything right?
Or is there something I’m totally missing?
Yeah, I miss his posts also. He took on a second job in order to try to retire early. I wish him and his family the best and hope it’s coming true for him.
The forum is very perfect for the majority of members.
But lacks "MEAT & POTATOES" for those who would appreciate a few subjects that requires something greater than a few drive-by posts. Often when I come and look at "NEW POSTS" cover page, I notice that (1) ONE member has responded to every thread on that "RECENT POSTS" page in less than 12 minutes.
To be able to respond to twenty SOME threads in under twelve minutes, I take that to indicate that none of those threads required much thinking.
Yes, I understand that most come for entertainment and fellowship with forum friends and members. And that is GREAT. But some want to learn new things, dig into discussions so dynamic they can't sleep, they have to get-up and see what information was added to that thread.
Some of us have been party to threads that stayed on subject and ran over 300 posts, and the thread lasted months. Those threads were very educational, because they brought-forth new thinking, new awareness, showed deep, likely fatal planning errors by some participating in that thread.
The key was that it was a totally virgin subject. Everyone was looking for new information, looking to learn. It was an extremely vibrant discussion. That is what some members find an absence of, and they get listed here as "Missing Members". Good book "Who stole my Cheese". This forum is in a period where there is a shortage of content with meat & potatoes.
I am "NOT" saying there is anything wrong with this forum, I am attempting to explain why some become "missing members". They simply can't find any threads they find interesting & compelling.
This is NOT doomsday preppers, it Homesteading and Country Living! Yes you and MANY have been here since day one and came from a preparedness site, BUT ...it's really a homesteading group! You can NOT look at politics, your choice. But politics are why most try to prepare!! So , ...........
OK..........My issue with politics threads, is they are ranting and raving, pissing and moaning. Never any discussion about a solution or way forward. I love politics. But my interest is how can I best hedge my risk exposure. Not raving about either party, or what is coming, or what they just passed. If we spent time discussing how we can blunt the impact, how we can act imminently to structure our personal situation, to be in a better, safer position. I am personally going wide-open, actually redeploying assets, based on current reality, and anticipated deteriorating reality. I am interested in what others are actually doing, their plan. Not interested in seventeen posts ranting about how sucky the government is, how corrupt it is, everything it is doing wrong. I form a plan and act on that plan. I am not interested in waiting till I am "TRAPPED" and "SCREWED".
I think most folks feel tired, i do. Sort of a breathless waiting, calm before the storm. Months ago I noticed a change IRL, posted about it. Here people in restaurants/shopping, in public places speak in subdued tones, its abnormally quiet. It's really noticeable at restaurants. You'd think folks out with family/friends for a meal would relax, enjoy themselves, laugh, talk. I see less and less of it. It's like everyone is waiting...
At the end of the day, been preparing 30yrs, did the best for my circumstance, even learned a new skill, plant medicine. If it ain't done now... probably won't get done.
At the end of the day, been preparing 30yrs, did the best for my circumstance, even learned a new skill, plant medicine. If it ain't done now... probably won't get done.
Yes.
What gets old is hearing posts every week, for years, that scream:
"The end of the world is happening THIS WEEK! Head to your shelter NOW!!
"And if you don't have 7 years of food stored... like I do
... you will die a slow horrible death!"After the 49th time when nothing happens, well you just tune it out
.OK..........Go to "What's New" or "Recent Posts" and read through the list of thread titles, even read some of the content. There is very-very little about homesteading, farming, gardening or country living. I am "NOT" saying there is zero, but there is very little. Notice how many (new members) who join this forum to learn about "Homesteading and Country Living" in the new member section, then they disappear.
There are very few threads about farming, gardening, harvesting, budgeting, investing, purchasing/selling property or the tax ramifications of everything.
I would point out to you that even the most serious preppers are not "doomers" or Doomsday preppers. Actually, they are the "EXACT" opposite of "THAT". The Doomsday preppers are those who just woke up to Current Reality. Those who have been at it for decades, actually "living" it, have placed themselves near abundant water resources, abundant fish and game, have 15 cords of split/dried firewood. They are far from doomers, they are ready. They are not fearful of the future; they are attempting to motivate others.
After the 49th time when nothing happens, well you just tune it out
This is the "Flaw" in your post. Those who choose to believe nothing as ever happened are simply wrong. I was born at the end of WW-II, and I am well aware of the horrific happenings over the last 77 years. And it is accelerating at a bewildering rate. What is happening today to and in America (and western Europe) frightens everyone I know personally.
What bewilders me is that most live in a fantasy reality, where they think something will make everything good again. All I can say is for me America peaked in the 1950's. The government corruption born November 1963 was the foundation for our current destruction.
Sourdough, your thoughts are interesting. It's like you were hoping homesteadingforum.org would be a doomsday cult, and you seem a bit put out that it's not. There are indeed some people here who fit that profile. I think most people on this forum are not like that though. I know I'm not. Different levels of prepping are represented here, that's for sure, but not too many have jumped off into the deep end with the doomsday thing. I will say that it is interesting to read the posts from the doomsday group - imagining the life they must be leading and the life they are planning for.
This forum is what you make of it. I would encourage folks to post threads they'd like to discuss, and it will go in that direction. Don't be part of the problem, instead be part of the solution.
Yes, I visited the other forum that 5 of us members fled from and went to TF, and then to here.
I watched the other forum get burned to the ground, going from over a hundred posts per day to...
Wow! They had 5 whole new posts today (Saturday)!!!
(not threads, posts).
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Carbon Media has a knack for killing forums. Probably their only talent.Yes, I visited the other forum that 5 of us members fled from and went to TF, and then to here.
I watched the other forum get burned to the ground, going from over a hundred posts per day to...
Wow! They had 5 whole new posts today (Saturday)!!!
HELL YEAH!Yes.
What gets old is hearing posts every week, for years, that scream:
"The end of the world is happening THIS WEEK! Head to your shelter NOW!!".
"And if you don't have 7 years of food stored... like I do
After the 49th time when nothing happens, well you just tune it out
I wandered in here as a survivalist, I think you guys have changed me quite a bit, so being a retiring prepper predator to be, I decided to help out any way I could. I hope I have. The human race needs more people like you and less of what I used to be. BUT back to Supervisor42's nugget of wisdom.
The trick is not to know the end is coming, it is already here, and we see it daily, No my friends, the trick is to Look out the window when its time, then head to the BOL/Shelter with a shrug and a smug smile as you bolt the door and say:
"I told you so."
If this place is not what you need, then why do you keep coming back? There ARE other places to go.
Why post leading questions that are digging for personal information and security of people while not doing the same about yourself? That makes me very suspicious.
Thats why I took a break and I watched the board, not logged in.
There are a couple on here that do that, so I'm not giving any more information out on here.
I'm not posting what is in my pantry and how much of it, or IF I have weapons and what kind and what any security features I have or anything else that would jeopardize my security.
I'll post hints or recipes
Why post leading questions that are digging for personal information and security of people while not doing the same about yourself? That makes me very suspicious.
Thats why I took a break and I watched the board, not logged in.
There are a couple on here that do that, so I'm not giving any more information out on here.
I'm not posting what is in my pantry and how much of it, or IF I have weapons and what kind and what any security features I have or anything else that would jeopardize my security.
I'll post hints or recipes
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I think that has always been the case.....and mostly due to normalcy bias.
The difference in the last several years though is that people are now being encouraged to believe in what they want to believe in - more so than at any previous time in human history.
That which people choose to consider the truth, is chosen like selecting food from the menu in a fast food joint.
That makes discussions on these forums increasingly difficult.
Arguing a point of logic that should be self-evident doesn't count for much anymore - people are too accustomed to denying logic.
Spot on Havasu!! And to turn this back in the right direction, there are members I miss!! Many here have had health issues lately. So when I asked "where's Sourdough", I did that hoping you were ok!
I too struggle at times with what to share and what to keep to myself so completely understand this.
Thank you @Sourdough for the response. It is intriguing. And I have felt like for the past several months many are “waiting for the other shoe to drop,” akin to what @Peanut said - muffled voices and averted eyes.
The outright discussion of firearms, knowledge of tactics and/or supplies has almost become tabu since everything has become so monitored.
It seems (to me) we are in the mourning phase. We know so vividly what was, but it’s gone (like the ability to show off one’s pantry or new weapon) and we are now preparing our “spirits” for whatever lies ahead.
As far as missing members, I’ve reached out to a few who are well and still preparing but simply trying not to spend as much time online and/or are focusing on their own home and community. That’s something I respect.
If anyone is thinking of stepping away for a bit, it is nice to know so we don’t have to be concerned about the missing member (like Sentry).
We are real people and care as @Pearl indicated so become concerned if someone goes missing without our immediate notice. This too can be a prep/life saver. If one of us needs assistance, wouldn’t it be helpful to know there might be someone looking for us?
I realize this thread has strayed a bit but life gets messy at times. Let’s just clean it up and keep on going
WOW has this thread gone way off topic.
Might be a good idea to start a different thread where people can complain about how much they dislike it here.
Might be a good idea to start a different thread where people can complain about how much they dislike it here.
Re-read what I said, Ma'am. I DO like it here. I don't think I have ever asked a single question asking anyone what they have, I might have asked how someone did something at times. As for me, I don't care if people know what I have because I'm a walking dead man anyway. I spent most of my life training and preparing to take what I need. I hung out here a bit and had a change of heart, I don't even go to the survivalist forum anymore, it's full of guys worse than me, and Ma'am, that should scare the living hell out of everyone here! I'm sorry you took it that way, but I'm here to help, maybe save a life or two.
I don't think she meant you, I think that was aimed at Sourdough and the others who "don't post much anymore"! We know you like it here!!Re-read what I said, Ma'am. I DO like it here. I don't think I have ever asked a single question asking anyone what they have, I might have asked how someone did something at times. As for me, I don't care if people know what I have because I'm a walking dead man anyway. I spent most of my life training and preparing to take what I need. I hung out here a bit and had a change of heart, I don't even go to the survivalist forum anymore, it's full of guys worse than me, and Ma'am, that should scare the living hell out of everyone here! I'm sorry you took it that way, but I'm here to help, maybe save a life or two.
It was right under mine, felt personal.If so, My bad.
Cue the Rodney King line: "CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?" 
It must be great, knowing everything there EVER was to know about homesteading & doomsday prepping, lol...
Some of us are still in the learning curve... just the way it is. Meh, when the SHTF, my USA INF skills will compensate for a fair amount of ignorance, lol.
Havasu has it right: be part of the solution, not part of the problem. Backlash too, maybe there SHOULD be a thread for "primadonna preppers" who KNOW IT ALL to b!tch & whine, p!ss & moan, etc.
As for those "new members" who come and go, maybe they're spammers, maybe they're libtards, maybe they're gubmint spies, who really knows? If they have what it takes to stick around and make an effort, more power to 'em...
It must be great, knowing everything there EVER was to know about homesteading & doomsday prepping, lol...
Some of us are still in the learning curve... just the way it is. Meh, when the SHTF, my USA INF skills will compensate for a fair amount of ignorance, lol.
Havasu has it right: be part of the solution, not part of the problem. Backlash too, maybe there SHOULD be a thread for "primadonna preppers" who KNOW IT ALL to b!tch & whine, p!ss & moan, etc.
As for those "new members" who come and go, maybe they're spammers, maybe they're libtards, maybe they're gubmint spies, who really knows? If they have what it takes to stick around and make an effort, more power to 'em...
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That is a common problem on forums. People sometimes think something was meant specifically for them or directed at them, when it was actually just a general musing being added to the discussion. A post appearing right after one of mine does not mean it was addressed at my previous post. The opposite happens on forums too. Sometimes I'll be typing a response to a post and think, "nobody else is awake and posting to the forums at this hour, so I don't need to quote the post I'm responding to because it will be obvious since my post will follow that one." But by the time I finish typing my response and hit POST, three other posts slipped in there ahead of mine! So all context is lost for my post. And sometimes I have responded to a post, everything looked good, but then the mods removed the post I had responded to - probably for the same reason that I responded to it in the first place. And then my response is left there hanging, and others reading it later wonder what the heck I was babbling about since all context has been removed. I think it would be much preferable if the mods would modify the text of the errant post to say "post deleted by moderator" rather than totally deleting the post.
There are lots of different ways that our posts can get misinterpreted. Quoting at least a few words from the post you are replying to helps. That's why I quoted Pearl above. It was not that I was responding to Pearl directly, but I was responding to the idea that she introduced. But even that is not guaranteed. Had I said something offensive in this post (I hope I haven't!), then Pearl might rightfully be pissed about that thinking that since I quoted her I was responding directly to her. But I am responding to her idea, not her personally.
Forum communications are fraught with peril and chances to be misunderstood.
