What is the situation with the farm murders and rape statistics there? Is it just in Joberg, or countrywide?
Hello from South Africa
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It is countrywide as far as I am aware of, I looked for stats but our police doesnt separate farm murders from non-farm murders.
There were 17805 murders and 53617 sexual offences from April 2014 to March 2015. For the same time period,
Assault with the intent to inflict grievous bodily harm is at 182556 situations.
There were 17805 murders and 53617 sexual offences from April 2014 to March 2015. For the same time period,
Assault with the intent to inflict grievous bodily harm is at 182556 situations.
I understand not wanting to bug out from the whole country, any more than many of us would want to abandon ours, no matter how bad it got, but how long do you think it will be before things turn like they have in Zim?
They are already in the proses, they are currently trying to force a law through witch would give 50% of a farm over to the farm workers on the farm, the impact of this on food stability in our country could lead to full out chaos. Not considering the loans on these farms that have to be paid back to the banking institutions, just wondering if the new "co-owners" are going to pay their part of the loan? Off all the land claims since 1994, and there are 1000's you would probably be able to count those that made a success of their farms and contribute towards the economy on one hand, the others have fallen back into subsistance farming. Time is slowly running out in this country.
If you want to read more about it you can try this link.
http://greatsalandscandal.blogspot.co.za
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Do you think that eventually Whites will be genocided in ZA, or will they be able to reestablish control over their destiny as a people?
I do believe we will prevail, not through our own ability, only through the grace of God, and i believe that at the end of it all will be well for our "Boer" nation, but it is going to cost, something that we cannot fathom at this stage.
Do you think that Boers should regather in the Orange Free State area and create a more homogeneous and defensible enclave there, or try to hold on to the entire country? In other words, is Balkanization and breakup a possible solution for ZA?
Nope, those thing have been tried, "Orania" a so called "Boer" state or town, economically it will not be viable as well, we are basically waiting for a breakdown in the "system" wich will split all the groups in this country apart, lets say according to ethnic lines, there runs deep divisions in the population of this country. The main tribes involved is the Xhosa, Zulu, Sotho there are about 12 in total, whats keeping them from hammering each other is their unified struggle against the "White Afrikaner" or the famous "Apartheid". Things are starting to split at the seams due to many various factors, their alliances are breaking up and my believ is that things thats common to each tribe will unify them when this country falls into full lawlessness, it is a natural human proses to stick to what is more familiar to you, for example, language and culture, the Zulu's and Xhosa's each have their own disticnt language and culture. The "Boers" will be forced together in a certain area, but not through own choice but through necesity, if you know a "Boer" you will also know that he/she is a very stubborn creature and wont willingly budge from where he/she is most comfortable, "HOME". I also believe that if all the white poeple in SA packed up and moved to lets say the Free State such action would definately be met with military intervention from the government, they would see it as a threat to the State or they would say we are trying to re-establish "Apartheid". There are other role players in the mess that is currently unfolding in this country, but that is something that might be discussed under "Conspiracy Theories", because it becomes like chasing ghosts when you go down that road, you know they are there, you just cant lay your hands on them.
Yeah, pretty much the same thing we're waiting for here, then, with the same inevitable conclusion.
I understand everything that's been said above and also worry that it might happen, there was a rampage that happened in the past also where my parents and grandfather told me about where people united just to single out race groups for barbaric reasons.
http://www.sahistory.org.za/archive/70-durban-riots-1949
Just for the historical record, I am a South African of Indian descent.
http://www.sahistory.org.za/archive/70-durban-riots-1949
Just for the historical record, I am a South African of Indian descent.
I'm sorry to say but it will not be the last, your ethnicity being from Indian descent will not count in your favor when the rules break down, as well as mine. There were a few insident like those throuhgout the resent history of our country, but its kept quiet about, today its probably only told through family history like yours.
Your perspective is very interesting to me. Does the Indian community as a whole in ZA feel anxiety about the future, as well, that potentially the country might break up, and as you said, racial civil war occur? If it did, what do you think many of them would do, in reaction? Would they immigrate to India or another Indian expat community elsewhere, or take one side or another, or try to stay out of it?
@JoeSA - oh, I didn't mean that it would count in my favour, I just meant that it has happened where another minority where targeted prevously in this country.
@Billy Roper - honestly I am not really sure about their feelings but the only people that I know in my race group that share my outlook on how things can go bad are the younger cousins that I have that are influenced by me. I know though that we would not be able to leave the country, nor would I take any side, I would just try to keep my loved ones out of harms way, a low profile as we try to go somewhere alot more isolated, all grayman-like.
@Billy Roper - honestly I am not really sure about their feelings but the only people that I know in my race group that share my outlook on how things can go bad are the younger cousins that I have that are influenced by me. I know though that we would not be able to leave the country, nor would I take any side, I would just try to keep my loved ones out of harms way, a low profile as we try to go somewhere alot more isolated, all grayman-like.
Shadow, didnˋt mean it in a bad way just that we are in the same boat conserning minorities, so are a lot of other minorities in this country, they are in trouble and they dont even realize it, I see on your profile that you are from Jhb, according to me really not a good place to be if the SHTF, i hope you have done some serious homework around gettting out (route planning).
No problem Joe SA, yeah but this weekend I am moving to Centurion, it will be closer to work and it's not as heavily residential as other places in Randburg at least.
Looking back at my bug out routes both go south one as a stop over is in parys in the free state. The second goes further south to swartberg where my 'group' will fortify the swartberground star fort. The first route is the hardest since we have about thirty kilometers in the city before we leave. We are trying to get a small storage ground, more like a workshop closer to home so we walk to get to the vehicles.
