I believe a larger disaster is coming. What we must prepare for.

[JackDW]

Tractor Supply is hiring 5000 people to meet demand of the people seeing that they need to be self sustaining. They are starting to garden, raise chickens for eggs, etc. Wonder how long they will stick with it?

Not long, once things get back to normal. Growing gardens and raising live stock is a LOT of work. It will get old pretty fast at which time a majority of the "new comers" will drop out. That will also impact the new TCS employees. I fear their new jobs will be temporary.

 

[GeorgiaPeachie]

No governor wants to be the first to reopen in case there is a relapse. The others are waiting for someone to start then they will follow.

Very good point Robin! The reason is because politics is WAY to involved in this pandemic. The Governors are too afraid of political backlash. It’s a shame. But one only has to see what’s happening with Hydroxychloroquine that the President mentioned vs several other medications that weren’t approved by long studies and are being tried out. Those meds are not getting bashed daily, even tho they have FAR LESS time in use. A NY physician said it succinctly, he said that these doctors arguing on tv about Hydroxychloroquine are not treating a single person with the coronavirus and they are politicizing it, whereas he is just doing what works for his patients.

 

[Mountain trapper]

Not long, once things get back to normal. Growing gardens and raising live stock is a LOT of work. It will get old pretty fast at which time a majority of the "new comers" will drop out. That will also impact the new TCS employees. I fear their new jobs will be temporary.

You could be right. But the government, and their non-elected "experts" got away with shutting the country down over this China flu. Are they going to shut down every time there's a new flu? This could become the new standard; scare the people enough and they will accept anything.
I think some people will remember this crisis and will do what they can to prepare for the next shut down of the country.

 

[GeorgiaPeachie]

You could be right. But the government, and their non-elected "experts" got away with shutting the country down over this China flu. Are they going to shut down every time there's a new flu? This could become the new standard; scare the people enough and they will accept anything.
I think some people will remember this crisis and will do what they can to prepare for the next shut down of the country.

Personally, I’m already feeling like I’ve been sold a bag of poo. The reason we shut down our economy was because the CDC and Dr Fauci said we would lose 2.2 million people. Now they have lowered that to 60k. While some countries who didn’t close down and ruin their economy have not lost that many folks %wise.

So the question is...Are the CDC and Dr Fauci that stupid or was there another reason for doing this?

 

[GeorgiaPeachie]

Why have we trashed our economy when we lost 80k people to the flu in 2018 and did none of this shelter in place and ruin the economy crap?

 

[Proud Prepper]

Personally, I’m already feeling like I’ve been sold a bag of poo. The reason we shut down our economy was because the CDC and Dr Fauci said we would lose 2.2 million people. Now they have lowered that to 60k. While some countries who didn’t close down and ruin their economy have not lost that many folks %wise.

So the question is...Are the CDC and Dr Fauci that stupid or was there another reason for doing this?

The reason is there all invested with big pharma and want to cash in on new vaccines. It's an incestuous group, tied to Bill Gates, eugenics and planned parenthood, etc.. who are all globalists, population control advocates.

 

[GeorgiaPeachie]

The reason is there all invested with big pharma and want to cash in on new vaccines. It's an incestuous group, tied to Bill Gates, eugenics and planned parenthood, etc.. who are all globalists, population control advocates.

Exactly what I was thinking. They make it pretty obvious by attacking any treatment that is cheap vs pushing their new antibodies and vaccines! We will have a Great Depression guys. With what has happened there is no way around it.

 

[Proud Prepper]

Why have we trashed our economy when we lost 80k people to the flu in 2018 and did none of this shelter in place and **** down the economy crap?

That's because, this would have killed millions if these actions did not occur. The reason we had to take such drastic actions is because the WHO and the CDC, NHS, etc.. deliberately was not prepared and was incompetent. They wanted to destroy economies and usher in global totalitarian rule in order to sell the world vaccines and force compliance.

 

[DrHenley]

Why have we trashed our economy when we lost 80k people to the flu in 2018 and did none of this shelter in place and **** down the economy crap?

Short answer: Because like ********* we believed China.

Taiwan did not, and they nipped in the bud without having to shut down. 382 cases, mostly imported, and 6 deaths. They have already reopened schools.
Taiwan tried to warn the world. They were muzzled by the WHO.

 

[Maverick]

It's going to take years and years to recover from this if ever, this stimulus package(s) isn't even a band-aid to the larger picture, we are going to see a major devaluation of the fiat currencies, the Feds are taking it's $3.9 trillion U.S. municipal bonds and purchasing fallen angle bonds that have lost their rating due to the virus. Everything is uncharted territory and it scares the hell out of me. The odds are against us, I know the US isn't alone, doesn't make it any easier.

 

[TheGhostofBelleStarr]

Yes the question is are we going to do this everytime a new virus shows up...and now that our enemies have seen just how effective this in causing financial destruction, panic etc I seriously believe they are now much more prone to use a (speculate, another) bioweapon in the future. Especially now that China is pissed off that they have lost face and there are serious threats of moving business productions off their shores. What might the next bug look like, say 2 years from now, are we to spend trillions more...

 

[Brent S]

Why have we trashed our economy when we lost 80k people to the flu in 2018 and did none of this shelter in place and ruin the economy crap?

Was this worth shutting down the economy? Was it worth trying to keep everyone from getting infected at once and overwhelming our medical system? Is it worth the highest number of unemployment claims since the Great Depression? Tough questions....
I did learn that my brother in law has it today. Assuming my sister will any day now.

 

[Kevin L]

Was this worth shutting down the economy? Was it worth trying to keep everyone from getting infected at once and overwhelming our medical system? Is it worth the highest number of unemployment claims since the Great Depression? Tough questions....
I did learn that my brother in law has it today. Assuming my sister will any day now.

Sorry about that. Wish them well for me.

 

[Proud Prepper]

Was this worth shutting down the economy? Was it worth trying to keep everyone from getting infected at once and overwhelming our medical system? Is it worth the highest number of unemployment claims since the Great Depression? Tough questions....
I did learn that my brother in law has it today. Assuming my sister will any day now.

I know you dont believe in CDS, but please tell your bil and sister about it. At the very least tell them, take Zinc, vitamin C, vitamin D3.... I wish them well.

 

[Brent S]

I know you dont believe in CDS, but please tell your bil and sister about it. At the very least tell them, take Zinc, vitamin C, vitamin D3.... I wish them well.

They are both health nuts at least. Lots of vitamins and regular exercise. He has asthma which isn’t good but they are a young 60s.
I’m not against using the CDS to treat an illness when being watched by a doctor, I’m just not big on self treatments in general. She is an RN so at least has enough information to do what she feels best though. She might be as stubborn as I am too.... thanks

 

[DrHenley]

We have yet to see the worst of it, even in NY. I hope it peaks Sunday like they are predicting but from what I am seeing I don't think it will.

We may be able to keep people from dying if they start them on hydroxychloroquine and Z-Pak before they get critical. A lot of patients have been dying here because they weren't treated with hydroxychloroquine until they already had significant organ damage. In Europe they have started giving it to them earlier than we are here and seeing great results. Of course in the UK, doctors have been ordered by their boss not to use hydroxychoroquine, so their mortality rate will just keep going up and up. It may soon surpass Italy's mortality rate.

If we get to the point where we can effectively treat it, and people recover quickly and don't die, then we can afford to relax a little and let more people catch it. Then it really will become just another flu.

This is so contagious that it's not going to stop spreading until the majority of people in the world have had it. NOBODY in the world has any natural immunity to it. If you are exposed, you will get infected. But it may only be asymptomatic or mild depending on how robust your immune system is.

 

[Proud Prepper]

Yeah they need to give the Hydroxychloriquin and zinc before patients get serious. They doing that in Brazil with great success. Big pharma is fighting this.

 

[dirtdiva]

Was this worth shutting down the economy? Was it worth trying to keep everyone from getting infected at once and overwhelming our medical system? Is it worth the highest number of unemployment claims since the Great Depression? Tough questions....
I did learn that my brother in law has it today. Assuming my sister will any day now.

I will keep your family in my prayers for a full and speedy recovery

 

[Maverick]

Wish them speedy recovery Brent

 

[DrHenley]

Z-Pak (Azithromycin) is also being used in combination with hydroxycholorquine. Although it is an antibiotic, which you wouldn't think would work on a virus, it works by inhibiting Messenger RNA. The combination of hydroxychloroquine, Z-Pak, and zinc seems to be the winning combination.

 

[Dani]

@Brent S I hope for the best for your BIL and your sister. I am one that has CDS on hand and hunny and I have both been taking as a preventative along with an added vitamin C.

 

[Brent S]

Thanks for all your well wishes, I will pass them along. I’m sure my sister is a nervous wreck right now and any positive remarks help.

 

[Kevin L]

We have yet to see the worst of it, even in NY. I hope it peaks Sunday like they are predicting but from what I am seeing I don't think it will.

We may be able to keep people from dying if they start them on hydroxychloroquine and Z-Pak before they get critical. A lot of patients have been dying here because they weren't treated with hydroxychloroquine until they already had significant organ damage. In Europe they have started giving it to them earlier than we are here and seeing great results. Of course in the UK, doctors have been ordered by their boss not to use hydroxychoroquine, so their mortality rate will just keep going up and up. It may soon surpass Italy's mortality rate.

If we get to the point where we can effectively treat it, and people recover quickly and don't die, then we can afford to relax a little and let more people catch it. Then it really will become just another flu.

This is so contagious that it's not going to stop spreading until the majority of people in the world have had it. NOBODY in the world has any natural immunity to it. If you are exposed, you will get infected. But it may only be asymptomatic or mild depending on how robust your immune system is.

There is one question that I haven't been able to get an answer for, even if an "I don't know".

There are many viral illnesses that cause problems later in life.

Genital warts can cause cervical cancer, Hepatitis B and C can cause liver cancer later in life, mumps can (supposedly, but this is disputed) cause sterility, influenza can cause Parkinson's disease later in life, many different viruses can cause Guillian-Barre Syndrome, Zika (even though a mild illness) can cause catastrophic birth defects, and so on.

Will there be a second epidemic--perhaps years from now--of some kind of neurological disorder, or perhaps some exotic cancer?

I don't think anyone seems to have asked this . . . or at least not publically.

I am concerned.

I would like to know if other corona viruses (perhaps related to COVID-19) do or don't cause problems later in life.

 

[tmttactical]

As Always, my best wishes for you and your family members. My political debate with you does not cross over to family. Hope all goes well.

 

[Dani]

@Kevin L I dont think we will have data on that until it may happen down the road. They are still learning on this round.

 

[Kevin L]

@Kevin L I dont think we will have data on that until it may happen down the road. They are still learning on this round.

I'm sure you're right . . . but the idea that we may have a second epidemic of obscure illnesses--perhaps years from now--is disqueting.

 

[tmttactical]

Covid19, The Chinese gift that will keep on giving for decades. Just remember that every time a Cheap Chinese product is offered up for sale. Remember that as inflation eats into your income and the taxes climb to pay off the cost of this Chinese brought disaster. Buy American, pass the word.

 

[DrHenley]

Well, we know, for example, that cold sores are caused by herpes simplex viruses that are lurking dormant in your nerve cells until activated by stress or illness. So yes, they might very well cause future problems.

 

[DrHenley]

https://www.nationalreview.com/news...adly-than-spanish-flu-if-it-appeared-in-1918/
Scott Gottlieb: Coronavirus Would Have Been ‘Far More Deadly than Spanish Flu’ If It Appeared in 1918

 

[GaRp58]

I did learn that my brother in law has it today. Assuming my sister will any day now.

Hi Brent, try reading the book on MMS, I posted the entire story from Jim Humble in a PDF on page 26 of the "whats new in your town" thread. Maybe you could use the new and completed info to balance your knowledge on the theory of using it. Your family deserves a second opinion, especially NOW. Hope you can read it and decide for yourself what is the right direction now that you are personally touched...Gary