Right now there is no way the Government could confiscate all the weapons in the U.S........it is impossible....before 1934 guns were not even registered and no one knows how many guns are even in the U.S......the recent 80% build it yourself unregistered/no S/N business is booming....I would guess there have been several million 80% rifles and pistols built in the last several years....at one time you could buy Browning machine guns from a Sears catalog....could the day come that the U.S. is civilian gun free ? not in the next 100 years.....Can you even imagine the man hours, money, civil war and death that confiscating all those weapons would bring....
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Right now there is no way the Government could confiscate all the weapons in the U.S........it is impossible....before 1934 guns were not even registered and no one knows how many guns are even in the U.S......the recent 80% build it yourself unregistered/no S/N business is booming....I would guess there have been several million 80% rifles and pistols built in the last several years....at one time you could buy Browning machine guns from a Sears catalog....could the day come that the U.S. is civilian gun free ? not in the next 100 years.....Can you even imagine the man hours, money, civil war and death that confiscating all those weapons would bring....
I've bought a number of firearms, most in fact, from individuals that
advertised in the news papers and at gun shows that didn't require
paperwork for a "casual sale" from non dealers.
Very few of my personal firearms had paper work.
Being retired police I get a "delay" every time I try to buy from a
gun dealer.
I've been told that many former military also get a delay.
Really ticks me off thus buying from individuals.
Ohio allows casual sales/purchases without paperwork. (so far)
Ohio being a typical Democrat State is pretty "gun friendly".
A HUGE amount of income for the State is from guns/ammo/and
hunting licenses.
Ohio is Democrat but even they aren't stupid. Well a little stupid. :>)
advertised in the news papers and at gun shows that didn't require
paperwork for a "casual sale" from non dealers.
Very few of my personal firearms had paper work.
Being retired police I get a "delay" every time I try to buy from a
gun dealer.
I've been told that many former military also get a delay.
Really ticks me off thus buying from individuals.
Ohio allows casual sales/purchases without paperwork. (so far)
Ohio being a typical Democrat State is pretty "gun friendly".
A HUGE amount of income for the State is from guns/ammo/and
hunting licenses.
Ohio is Democrat but even they aren't stupid. Well a little stupid. :>)
@drt4lfe
"Can you even imagine the man hours, money, civil war and death that confiscating all those weapons would bring...."
Would anyone really resist law enforcement with lethal force if
there was an attempt to confiscate firearms?
That is a loosing proposition.
I might hide some of my firearms that the gov't doesn't know I have.
I'm not going to get shot, shoot anyone, go to prison for anything.
We will and should fight in the courts.
We are, after all, a nation of laws not a nation of men.
Opinions welcome.
"Can you even imagine the man hours, money, civil war and death that confiscating all those weapons would bring...."
Would anyone really resist law enforcement with lethal force if
there was an attempt to confiscate firearms?
That is a loosing proposition.
I might hide some of my firearms that the gov't doesn't know I have.
I'm not going to get shot, shoot anyone, go to prison for anything.
We will and should fight in the courts.
We are, after all, a nation of laws not a nation of men.
Opinions welcome.
The worst I see coming for Gun Owners is it may hinder the passing of the silencer law that would reclassifies silencers from class 3 to class 1 gets rid of the costly federal stamp and waiting for red tape .
Other than that the liberals will try a bunch of banns but run into the same brick wall then have their meltdown .
Other than that the liberals will try a bunch of banns but run into the same brick wall then have their meltdown .
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Except for my vehicles nothing I own is "registered". And I don't see that changing.
Federal Law say's Private Sales between individuals is Legal.....Ohio cannot stop that without a long prolonged Court battle....and your comment is why the Government could not confiscate every gun.....Impossible ......the private sales alone are in the millions....
@dtrforlife
why the Government could not confiscate every gun.....Impossible ......the private sales alone are in the millions....
I agree with impossible.
http://www.npr.org/2016/01/05/462017461/guns-in-america-by-the-numbers
the number of civilian firearms at 242 million in 1996, 259 million in 2000, and 310 million as of 2009.
If that 310 million number is correct, it means that the first year of Barack Obama's presidency was an inflection point: It marked the first time that the number of firearms in circulation surpassed the total U.S. population.
To the Gov't: "go ahead and try to confiscate all of those guns".
There really are some gun people that would shoot if confiscation were attempted.
Confiscation would be nothing less than gov't authorized THEFT.
why the Government could not confiscate every gun.....Impossible ......the private sales alone are in the millions....
I agree with impossible.
http://www.npr.org/2016/01/05/462017461/guns-in-america-by-the-numbers
the number of civilian firearms at 242 million in 1996, 259 million in 2000, and 310 million as of 2009.
If that 310 million number is correct, it means that the first year of Barack Obama's presidency was an inflection point: It marked the first time that the number of firearms in circulation surpassed the total U.S. population.
To the Gov't: "go ahead and try to confiscate all of those guns".
There really are some gun people that would shoot if confiscation were attempted.
Confiscation would be nothing less than gov't authorized THEFT.
Do you really think every gun over will roll over and give them all up ? and like I said, the required manpower, money and time to do so is not feasible for the Government....and you said you would hide some of yours which proves confiscation would not work because millions like you would also hide guns....that in itself is resistance.....when our Laws erode and take our Rights we , nation of men have fought....ask the British ?
and that number IMO is low......the number of non-registered/ no S/N guns that an individual can legally build for personal use would add to that number....you can legally build any amount of weapons for your personal use.....
That adds to the problem of confiscation.
An entire gov't bureau would have to be created to confiscate firearms
in America. Then add to the equation what to do with millions and millions
of firearms.
Store them 'till they can be destroyed?
The logistics alone would be mind boggling.
My department destroyed unclaimed firearms.
They were taken to the steel mill and melted.
I did manage to get screws, sights, and such without being in trouble but
not many.
A friend from another police department sent unclaimed firearms to an auction house
to be sold legally and proceeds used to buy police equipment.
Good idea.
An entire gov't bureau would have to be created to confiscate firearms
in America. Then add to the equation what to do with millions and millions
of firearms.
Store them 'till they can be destroyed?
The logistics alone would be mind boggling.
My department destroyed unclaimed firearms.
They were taken to the steel mill and melted.
I did manage to get screws, sights, and such without being in trouble but
not many.
A friend from another police department sent unclaimed firearms to an auction house
to be sold legally and proceeds used to buy police equipment.
Good idea.
Check your history Bro last time we met on the Battlefield your entire Continental army got whupped by the Brits in only 1 hour, then we enjoyed tea in your white house before torching DC and chasing your asses into Virginia
Only 4000 Brits and Canucks saw y'all beat in one hour at Bladensburg. Mind you we did meet ONE Brave Patriotic American who stood up to us, A Mrs Dolly Madison the bravest American of the day ( Her hubby the Prez was to busy borrowing a horse to try and catch up with his fleeing army)As for the previous fight in the 1770s we were already busy fighting the French, Spanish and Dutch, but in the US it was a FRENCH General called Rochambeau and his 20,000 expert veteran siege troops who whupped us.
:m4: and for that we then captured France and flattened Napoleon.( MarshallRochambeau)
In 1780, Rochambeau was appointed commander of land forces as part of the project code named Expédition Particulière.[1] He was given the rank of Lieutenant General in command of some 7,000 French troops and sent to join the Continental Army, under George Washington. In the American Revolutionary War Rochambeau commanded more troops than Washington did[citation needed]. Count Axel von Fersen the Younger served as Rochambeau's aide-de-camp and interpreter. The small size of the force at his disposal made him initially reluctant to lead the expedition.[2]
Bataille de Yorktown by Auguste Couder. Rochambeau and Washington giving their last orders before the battle.
Surrender of Lord Cornwallis by John Trumbull, depicting Cornwallis surrendering at Yorktown to the French troops of General Rochambeau (left) and American troops of Washington (right). Oil on canvas, 1820.
He landed at Newport, Rhode Island, on 10 July, but was held there inactive for a year, due to his reluctance to abandon the French fleet blockaded by the British in Narragansett Bay. Brown University, then named the College in the Colony of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations, served as an encampment site for some of Rochambeau's troops, and the College Edifice, now known as University Hall, was converted into a military hospital.[3] In July 1781, Rochambeau's force left Rhode Island, marching across Connecticut to join Washington on the Hudson River in Mount Kisco, New York. From July 6 to August 18, 1781, the Odell farm served as Rochambeau's headquarters.[4] There then followed the celebrated march of the combined forces, the siege of Yorktown and the Battle of the Chesapeake. On 22 September, they combined with Marquis de Lafayette's troops and forced Lord Cornwallis to surrender on 19 October. In recognition of his services, the Congress of the Confederation presented him with two cannons taken from the British. These guns, with which Rochambeau returned to Vendôme, were requisitioned in 1792.
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I keep hearing about bumper stocks, but that audio sure sounded like full auto to me. Some gun nuts are telling me you can't tell the difference much...but if that's so, then why the hell are the legal? Not that legality ever concerned a person about to murder dozens of people....
That's why anti-gun folks are complete morons. They feel that making it illegal will stop something. How well is that going for ANYTHING? Idiots.
I still think this was a false flag op using a programmed person, conditioned to do this based on a trigger action. Very similar to the Orlando shooting.
And, just like the Orlando shooting....ANOTHER guy was found with a bunch of weapons in his car....
http://www.fox13memphis.com/top-sto...ds-of-ammo-automatic-weapons-in-car/618889976
That's why anti-gun folks are complete morons. They feel that making it illegal will stop something. How well is that going for ANYTHING? Idiots.
I still think this was a false flag op using a programmed person, conditioned to do this based on a trigger action. Very similar to the Orlando shooting.
And, just like the Orlando shooting....ANOTHER guy was found with a bunch of weapons in his car....
http://www.fox13memphis.com/top-sto...ds-of-ammo-automatic-weapons-in-car/618889976
I expect they would model it after what was done in England & Australia. The behemoth that is our Federal Govt. would not see money or manpower as an impediment to doing whatever they think they want.
A couple of as we Brits would say Jolly Good Scraps What? Lost the Colonies, Gained Canada and most of the West Indies, Whupped the US and Whupped France, But we are all best of chums now ( Thank god)
Check your history Bro last time we met on the Battlefield your entire Continental army got whupped by the Brits in only 1 hour, then we enjoyed tea in your white house before torching DC and chasing your asses into Virginia
As for the previous fight in the 1770s we were already busy fighting the French, Spanish and Dutch, but in the US it was a FRENCH General called Rochambeau and his 20,000 expert veteran siege troops who whupped us.
( MarshallRochambeau)
In 1780, Rochambeau was appointed commander of land forces as part of the project code named Expédition Particulière.[1] He was given the rank of Lieutenant General in command of some 7,000 French troops and sent to join the Continental Army, under George Washington. In the American Revolutionary War Rochambeau commanded more troops than Washington did[citation needed]. Count Axel von Fersen the Younger served as Rochambeau's aide-de-camp and interpreter. The small size of the force at his disposal made him initially reluctant to lead the expedition.[2]
Bataille de Yorktown by Auguste Couder. Rochambeau and Washington giving their last orders before the battle.
Surrender of Lord Cornwallis by John Trumbull, depicting Cornwallis surrendering at Yorktown to the French troops of General Rochambeau (left) and American troops of Washington (right). Oil on canvas, 1820.
He landed at Newport, Rhode Island, on 10 July, but was held there inactive for a year, due to his reluctance to abandon the French fleet blockaded by the British in Narragansett Bay. Brown University, then named the College in the Colony of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations, served as an encampment site for some of Rochambeau's troops, and the College Edifice, now known as University Hall, was converted into a military hospital.[3] In July 1781, Rochambeau's force left Rhode Island, marching across Connecticut to join Washington on the Hudson River in Mount Kisco, New York. From July 6 to August 18, 1781, the Odell farm served as Rochambeau's headquarters.[4] There then followed the celebrated march of the combined forces, the siege of Yorktown and the Battle of the Chesapeake. On 22 September, they combined with Marquis de Lafayette's troops and forced Lord Cornwallis to surrender on 19 October. In recognition of his services, the Congress of the Confederation presented him with two cannons taken from the British. These guns, with which Rochambeau returned to Vendôme, were requisitioned in 1792.
And does the British Kingdom rule America ? NO....You lost and can make all the excuses you want like Hillary does...You Lost....
Christ No Rob that would be the absolute worst scenario, We are borderline defenceless whilst the criminals have easy access to guns. You NEED youe rights and guns, the question is .............. well I honestly dont know but your system isnt working and nor is ours. I still prefer your version compared to ours for all its excesses
Rule America, Heavens NO that would be troublesome, No we just bought most of it as did the Arabs and Japs and Chinese
Now lets see about America
What language do you speak ? ENGLISH
What is your LAW system based upon ? Yup English Common Law
What is your Alphabet? Yup the English Version
What are your main cities named after? Their British counterparts
Lets see erm....... How big is the American Empire or Commonwealth? Well there is Puerto Rico .
British commonwealth ?
Countries by region
Africa
- Botswana
- Cameroon
- Ghana
- Kenya
- Lesotho
- Malawi
- Mauritius
- Mozambique
- Namibia
- Nigeria
- Rwanda
- Seychelles
- Sierra Leone
- South Africa
- Swaziland
- Uganda
- United Republic of Tanzania
- Zambia
Caribbean and Americas
- Antigua and Barbuda
- Bahamas, The
- Barbados
- Belize
- Canada
- Dominica
- Grenada
- Guyana
- Jamaica
- Saint Lucia
- St Kitts and Nevis
- St Vincent and The Grenadines
- Trinidad and Tobago
Pacific
Map of Brit empire at its best before we gave it up
Map of American Empire at its best
Map of American Empire at its best
Yes I know guys, I'll stop it Just winding JaegerMeister up
Just winding JaegerMeister up 
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Au contraire my friend. The last time we met in battle was on January 8th, 1815. But I suppose it's understandable why your history books leave out mention of that day...
The last time we met on the battlefield was at Chalmette Plantation south of New Orleans. A rag tag bunch assembled by Old Hickory that included Tennessee Riflemen, Kentucky Riflemen, Choctaw Indians, Mississippi Light Dragoons, pirates under Jean LaFitte, Lousiana Free People of Color, and a handful of U.S. Marines and Regular Army were outnumbered 2 to 1 by vastly "superior" British forces under General Packenham and Admiral Chochrane.
On January 8, 1815, in what was possibly the most lopsided victory in the history of the world, Andy Jackson's irregulars put a major whuppin' to the best Redcoat troops the Brits could throw at them. British casualties were 700 killed, 1400 wounded and 500 captured (after pretending to be dead on the battlefield) while the Americans had 7 killed and 6 wounded.
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Of course they were used in a crime ergo the police had them.
Serial numbers not entered into NCIC or cleared from NCIC.
The department had an Federal Firearms License thus legal.
Au contraire my friend. The last time we met in battle was on January 8th, 1815. But I suppose it's understandable why your history books leave out mention of that day...
The last time we met on the battlefield was at Chalmette Plantation south of New Orleans. A rag tag bunch assembled by Old Hickory that included Tennessee Riflemen, Kentucky Riflemen, Choctaw Indians, Mississippi Light Dragoons, pirates under Jean LaFitte, Lousiana Free People of Color, and a handful of U.S. Marines and Regular Army were outnumbered 2 to 1 by vastly "superior" British forces under General Packenham and Admiral Chochrane.
On January 8, 1815, in what was possibly the most lopsided victory in the history of the world, Andy Jackson's irregulars put a major whuppin' to the best Redcoat troops the Brits could throw at them. British casualties were 700 killed, 1400 wounded and 500 captured (after pretending to be dead on the battlefield) while the Americans had 7 killed and 6 wounded.
Just like your original comments above Mon Ami, You won a Battle but lost the war, and much of NE America for a while
And I have to correct you the BEST of the Redcoats were all facing Napoleon in France and Spain, only the sad the lame and lazy were left over there.@Silent Earthbsflag
^^^^Love it. You lost thus America gained it's independence.
The war of 1812 was a sneak attack, a dirty rotten trick, just like
Imperial Japan at Pearl Harbor and recall what happened to Japan.
If the U.S. had not rescued Britain the English would be saluting
Hitler.
Americans are taught Pearl Harbor was a sneak attack.
The Japs teach it was a "preemptive strike".
The victor always write the history.
My father and 3 of his brothers fought in combat in WWII.
Three in Europe, one in the Pacific all came home all wounded.
There is more American blood shed in WWII than in Britain.
Hey! What do you expect? I'm an American and damned proud of it.:america:
Yes I know guys, I'll stop it
And don't forget it.
We MUST keep a sense of humor and realize these words are but electrons
on a screen.
It's all good my friends.
Obviously there is way too much evil in this world. Las Vegas has made me sick
and sportsmen, gun owners, will pay a price!
Fortunately I have pretty much all the firearms I want, more than I need, and
plenty of ammo.
My guns won't ever harm anyone not harming me, mine, or you and yours.
We are here to make buddies and learn about prepping so our kind can survive
what ever apocalypse comes our way.
AND defend against the ignorant snowflakes of this world.
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What happens to Americans and Spanish and Germans and French and Chinese
You can write a book, there are actually 1000's about it, but regardless of how many books are wrote.....the last line is.....Great Britain Lost...nothing prior matters......only the ending.....And I will guarantee you this, At least one of those British Privates involved in the burning of the White House said.....This is a bad idea, we are gonna pay dearly for this........lol......and he was right......lol.....
@Silent Earthbsflag
^^^^Love it. You lost thus America gained it's independence.
The war of 1812 was a sneak attack, a dirty rotten trick, just like (( Erm NO it was a response to America invading Canada and burning their capital of YORK))
Imperial Japan at Pearl Harbor and recall what happened to Japan. (( Just like the US did in the Fillipines When the Japs did it it was suddenly " An Act of Infamy" but when the Yanks did it was " Just a premeptive attack))
If the U.S. had not rescued Britain the English would be saluting
Hitler. ((If the UK had not rescued America in the 50s you would have been speaking Korean and Chinese))
Americans are taught Pearl Harbor was a sneak attack.(( The Japs copied it from the American / Spanish war in the Fillipines))
The Japs teach it was a "preemptive strike". ( Like America said about its attack on the Spanish
The victor always write the history.
My father and 3 of his brothers fought in combat in WWII. ( I salute those heros) ((We lost three of our family in Europe and my dad was wounded in Burma his brother died fighting Rommel. I feel your loss and salute your family.)0
Three in Europe, one in the Pacific all came home all wounded.
There is more American blood shed in WWII than in Britain.
((Amen to that we lost more in India, Burma, Malaya, Egypt etc and fighting out of Australia .. Brits, Yanks, Commonwealth all heros.))
Hey! What do you expect? I'm an American and damned proud of it.:america:
Damn right and so you should be. I like to say " British by act of political union, English by the grace of god, a Northerner by good fortune and a Light Infantryman forever.
