Most valuable job post collapse?

[ssonb]

Anyone who is or was an EMT or Paramedic will be a high value individual.. Throw in a smattering of natural herbal knowledge.

 

[forcast]

Everyone is saying farmer. How are you do that without fuel? Trucks to transport to people? Not many can walk miles to buy produce and walk home.

 

[forcast]

If your talking Employment, water treatment plant operators. Waste water operators. Drinking water engineer.

Horse and wagon owners.

 

[mml373]

So post collapse, what do you think would be the most valuable job? This is presuming of course that in your community there is some level of cooperation with one another. We know it isn't going to be lawyer, journalist or politician. I am talking things like horticulturist, medical doctor, engineer, metallurgist, veterinarian, etc. What line of work do you think would be worth the most to your community of post collapse survivors?

Homesteader would be first choice, then rifleman. Reality is, you'll have to be a jack of all trades.

 

[Amish Heart]

You can farm without "fuel", it's just slower. Our amish community does use tractor, but can use horse drawn, too. Problem is, since it's used more tractor for so long, only a hand full that I know of actually have the big horses needed for plowing. Most all just have buggy horses. Like Miss Bets, the one in our pasture. It could be done, though. I know my favorite cousin's son in law was raised in an area in Indiana where no tractor is used. He talks about helping to plow when he goes back for a visit, and enjoys it. That being said, things take a lot longer. So production will be less. Everyone in our town has horses, wagons, buggies, bicycles

 

[12icemaker]

Farming is the basic thing, well cleaning and digging will also become a need again if theris no fuel to run a well drilling machine,

That being said a farrier, any horse and mule breeder, wagon maker, wheelwright etc
sawmiller, log cabin builder, barn raiser, OLD type structural skills like using a mallet and drawknife.

 

[user 7404]

POST COLLAPSE and the most valued job? That's a good question. My question is, what caused the collapse in the first place? Is it economics or natural occurrence, viral / disease, or nuclear (war)? Depending on the circumstances; the first (economics) then farmers and docs / Naturopaths and all-around handymen. The second, (disease) social interaction would be almost nil and we would be dependent on ourselves. War (nuclear...most likely) Air and soil will be contaminated, pretty much everywhere....so we are all basically screwed. The more I think about each scenario, the more I realize that I am not "totally" prepared for any or all of it. However, I believe that if anything does happen it would be war (worst case scenario), and I make that decision, at this point, based on what is happening with the world political agenda, and that is what I focus MY prepping on.

 

[lonewolf]

Everyone is saying farmer. How are you do that without fuel? Trucks to transport to people? Not many can walk miles to buy produce and walk home.

dont need fuel to grow food, if the people arent in the area where the food is grown post collapse then they wont be eating it.

 

[Magus]

https://xkcd.com/1049/

RUN AMC, RUN! YOU KICKED THE PROTOTYPE PREPPER!

Alas Babylon was far better.

 

[DrHenley]

Mechanics, especially diesel mechanics since the diesel engines will still be running long after the gas engines.
Healthcare specialists of all types that aren't totally reliant on Big Pharma. The pill pushers will be worthless without their pills.
Metalworkers/welders/machinists/blacksmiths/bladesmiths
Gunsmiths/armorers/reloaders
Low tech agricultural experts (think Amish)
Veterinarians/Farriers/shepherds/
Security experts (hired guns, in other words)

I think pretty much everyone (that survives) will be growing food of some sort.

 

[Tirediron]

Most of what happens in today's society is designed to make people who produce nothing profit.
it won't be a "job'" that gets people through it will be skill and knowledge, al the you tube experts will find out that they aren't so expert. people who think they can just start horse farming, well anyone who has worked horses knows different. electronic controls, yeah good luck with that. Engines can be fueled with all kinds of things, it is just not as easy as pulling up to the pumps. vegitable oil will work if you know what to do, and it sure isn't bio diesel.

 

[Amish Heart]

They will be growing food, but the thing is, will they be growing food just for their family, and maybe a bit extra for trade/sell?
People that won't provide something for themself are just going to be out of luck.
I think all of this depends on the community you live it. Being a doctor, of course, is good, but if the community already has a couple of them, you're not so special. So the most valuable job is what is needed where you are.

 

[user 7404]

Growing food. I have been experimenting with a hydroponics system and the results are surprising. In our kitchen we have an 8 foot long tiered hydo system growing tomatoes, lettuce, spinach, cucumbers and several herbs. Lighting kit is a LED agriculture grow lights that take very little power at 720 watts. I think I will invest into a more productive veggie system for our bunker, we have the space.

 

[Tommyice]

In this order:
A doctor/dentist.
A person who can identify medicinal and edible herbs.
A mechanic.
A metal worker.
A skilled reloader.
A Seamstress.
A person with chemical skills who can make a variety of things.

Will I be able to charge more since I also can make the fabric?

 

[12icemaker]

Absolutely agree with the horse farming is not for anyone who has never put a team of horses to the plow and they will not be put to it until they accept it.
Putting anything behind a horse for it to pull the first time is a trip no matter what it is.
You are better off to harness them with a horse that has been worked with anything the first time AFTER you just hitch it and let them get used to it just being there while they stand with you.
Horses are like people they all have a personality of their own.

I would probably rejet the carbs reset injectors on my vehicles and use high proof alchy to run them.

Anything you do will have a lot of work to keep an ICE as a power source with no gas or oil based diesel.
The conversion of the raw products to any fuel will take a lot of work.

 

[LadyLocust]

Everyone is saying farmer. How are you do that without fuel? Trucks to transport to people? Not many can walk miles to buy produce and walk home.

Similar to my thought which was: everyone will become a "farmer" and have to grow some amount of their own food. Farmers (crops) today are so narrow scoped, they grow one thing and many I know are actually snowbirds and leave for 3 months of the year. Ranchers (stock) are year around but seldom produce enough of their own feed to keep the number of animals they tend. It's not like it was 100 years ago or what is portrayed in storybooks.

Most of what happens in today's society is designed to make people who produce nothing profit.
it won't be a "job'" that gets people through it will be skill and knowledge, al the you tube experts will find out that they aren't so expert. people who think they can just start horse farming, well anyone who has worked horses knows different. electronic controls, yeah good luck with that. Engines can be fueled with all kinds of things, it is just not as easy as pulling up to the pumps. vegitable oil will work if you know what to do, and it sure isn't bio diesel.

Actually on topic: have you read the book about Rudolph Diesel? His first design used about any oil. Being able to make that work could be a very valuable skill.

 

[Tirediron]

Similar to my thought which was: everyone will become a "farmer" and have to grow some amount of their own food. Farmers (crops) today are so narrow scoped, they grow one thing and many I know are actually snowbirds and leave for 3 months of the year. Ranchers (stock) are year around but seldom produce enough of their own feed to keep the number of animals they tend. It's not like it was 100 years ago or what is portrayed in storybooks.

Actually on topic: have you read the book about Rudolph Diesel? His first design used about any oil. Being able to make that work could be a very valuable skill.

I studied his work, , and the hornsby akroyd engine. and a bunch of simple stuff that followed

 

[user 7404]

Besides shelter and water as the primary focus for Prepping, the next most important is the food supply. Storing Food can only take a person or group so far. Growing crops can and maybe would or could be difficult not to mention labor-intensive. That is why I am leaning towards a smaller in ground gardening aspect and more towards a hydroponic system. As for livestock, I grew up on a farm, and keeping animals, especially large animals, is again labor intensive to provide food and shelter for these animals. My thoughts are more focused on smaller animals such as poultry, raised rabbits, and maybe a goat or two, all of which are healthy food sources. Keeping it a little simpler, thus easier to feed yourself and your family, to me, is the key to success. There are so many other areas that will also need your attention, keeping your head on a swivel will be important.

 

[12icemaker]

The self preservation part of the remaining communities and outlying families will depend on their ability to go without a lot of modern things, so the least labor per calorie, btu, and oz of fluid the better.
That requires a design and mindset, it is also very important UNLESS you are in a secure community, to remain as undetectable as possible.
Good crossbows, long bows and projectiles are essential items.
Being able to train people the way of life they need to adapt to and how to make the things they need seems to be a really important Job, perhaps the MOST important one.

One thing that gets lost a lot of times in the idea of After the Apocalypse is the number of tame (to start with) animals that will be left by those who are not going to care for them, to deal with that will be competing for small game and forage.

A lot more than just breaking out the 22 and going hunting for a RAB!!!

 

[user 7404]

Let's not forget the booze!

 

[Amish Heart]

Well, if you're not growing the food or raising animals and their food now, there is a learning curve. I couldn't imagine doing it under pressure, and no one will be selling "breeding pairs" or seed start if things go bad.

 

[Magus]

Will I be able to charge more since I also can make the fabric?

Lots more.

 

[Tirediron]

I don't know how I got there but I found a few videos of pre grey hair people doing some amazing things

that is some interesting innovation and patience
there will be more that link to it so have a look, if no one is trying to kill you. it is do able

 

[LadyLocust]

The self preservation part of the remaining communities and outlying families will depend on their ability to go without a lot of modern things, so the least labor per calorie, btu, and oz of fluid the better.
That requires a design and mindset, it is also very important UNLESS you are in a secure community, to remain as undetectable as possible.
Good crossbows, long bows and projectiles are essential items.
Being able to train people the way of life they need to adapt to and how to make the things they need seems to be a really important Job, perhaps the MOST important one.

One thing that gets lost a lot of times in the idea of After the Apocalypse is the number of tame (to start with) animals that will be left by those who are not going to care for them, to deal with that will be competing for small game and forage.

A lot more than just breaking out the 22 and going hunting for a RAB!!!

The small pets become food.

 

[lonewolf]

talking about doctors, over here even the country doctors dont live locally, they commute in from larger urban areas, same with dentists, post collapse they wont be going anywhere as the filling stations will be out of fuel within 24-36 hours.

 

[DrHenley]

Most of what happens in today's society is designed to make people who produce nothing profit.

...Using other people's money.

Bloodsuckers, in other words.

 

[Tirediron]

...Using other people's money.

Bloodsuckers, in other words.

that is a very polite way to put it

 

[Jim Costa]

Many workers will be lost in the U.S. as a result of Covid-19 Vaccinations.
Many more will die in the next year. We have already lost 30% of our workforce here.

In a normal world, skilled people wait to assume leadership positions until their 30s.
But due to the die offs and ill, young 20 year olds may be forced into those positions.

Leadership is not taught in schools of any type except military schools.
But they leave out a lot of leadership skills because in the military, you can shoot anyone who disobeys.

Therefore, I believe anyone with strong leadership experience will get to pick their jobs.
This will especially pertain to anyone who can run a business (make decisions).

The best way to prepare for this is to focus on learning Project Management skills.

I have written a free online Business Leadership School if you know anyone interested.
I feel a young person can complete it within 3 months.

The young don't have time for college during this time. They need t come up to speed as quickly as possible.

See: Free Business School

 

[Morgan101]

I agree with all of the trades and jobs that have been mentioned, but one group I think that has been overlooked is teachers. People, especially children, will still have to learn how to read and write.

I would pose the question just how far back (in time) are we going? Will we have to learn how the shear sheep and make cloth? Sew clothes? Make metal from ore? All would require a different skill set and variety of different jobs.

 

[Amish Heart]

Ugh. Leadership Management, Jim? I think valuable jobs would be someone that actually does something, produces something. I'm sure our current politicians think that they're the bees knees in leadership management. I wouldn't expect them to be valuable at all, or community activists. Talking heads.