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is that swap locust called water locust? i dont see swamp locust listed in denderology listing of locust
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleditsia_aquatica

a searches link doesnt work...go here to see locusts..type it in common name section to see results
https://dendro.cnre.vt.edu/dendrology/factsheets.cfm

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Yes, same thing (Gleditsia aquatica). On that Wikipedia link you gave, it has both names listed. Actually it is a species of honey locust, (honey locust is a global genus, Gleditsia, not a specific species). The more common honey locust in the US is the thorny honeylocust (Gleditsia triacanthos)
 
To anyone who liked my snek photo, she said it was a water mocassin, I don't know that for sure.
Water moccasin is the first thing that came to mind. Even without being able to see the head to confirm a triangular shape. I've run into enough of them. That short, fat, dull black body gives them away. A triangular head and white mouth confirms identification, but just looking at that body - for anyone who has been around many of them - you're 99.99% sure what it is. And you don't really want to mess with it either. They will stand their ground.
 
Water moccasin is the first thing that came to mind. Even without being able to see the head to confirm a triangular shape. I've run into enough of them. That short, fat, dull black body gives them away. A triangular head and white mouth confirms identification, but just looking at that body - for anyone who has been around many of them - you're 99.99% sure what it is. And you don't really want to mess with it either. They will stand their ground.
Thank you! There may be a creek nearby, but they've got lots of dogs that could get hurt by it. They killed it. Those snakes are so tubby. It wasn't aggressive though. It has been getting into the mid 70s during the night, I guess cool enough to keep them slower. My daughter was pretty sure it was a venomous water mocassin.
 
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At our reunions there is a quilt, with our Red Diamond insignia, that members who have attended our reunions can sign and list their unit and dates served. There are guys going back to WWII on there. Sadly, those few left are too old to attend anymore.
I am on there, name, unit, 1969-70, and my nickname Big Al.
It always occupies a place of honor when we reunite.
 
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At our reunions there is a quilt, with our Red Diamond insignia, that members who have attended our reunions can sign and list their unit and dates served. There are guys going back to WWII on there. Sadly, those few left are too old to attend anymore.
I am on there, name, unit, 1969-70, and my nickname Big Al.
It always occupies a place of honor when we reunite.

Once again: 🫡


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Yes indeed.
It doesn’t matter when you served, which branch, combat or never left the states, if you raised your right hand and took the oath we are all Brothers and Sisters.
 
Thank you! There may be a creek nearby, but they've got lots of dogs that could get hurt by it. They killed it. Those snakes are so tubby. It wasn't aggressive though. It has been getting into the mid 70s during the night, I guess cool enough to keep them slower. My daughter was pretty sure it was a venomous water mocassin.

I use the name cottonmouth because there's a non-venomous water snake that's also called a water moccasin. Avoids the confusion...

The snake in your picture looks like an older cottonmouth. When young they have a stripe pattern that they lose gradually as they age. When older they have a dull black color just like your photo.

This is a cottonmouth I almost stepped on last month... he's young, color pattern clearly visible. Just realized, it's probably not a good thing I have so much experience with cottonmouths I can guess their age... 🤣

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@Peanut you’re saying non venomous is what you call a cottonmouth?
Water moccasin is what you call the poisonous ones?

NO! There is a non-venomous snake that is called a water moccasin.

Then there is the very poisonous cottonmouth... I only use the name cottonmouth to describe it...

This is a cottonmouth... and you can clearly see why it's called a cottonmouth... the mouth is white.



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