priorities & value in hypothetical SHTF scenario

[MaterielGeneral]

A person with your internet footprint was pretty easy to Google.
I can give you your full name, your wifes's name, your previous address, the reason why you left it, your political preferences, the type of vehicle you drive, your present address(minus the house no.) and enough of a physical description to have you arrested.

I appreciate you consider walking distance a few miles as you seem to think the world ends at the Tamar, but you are within a few days walking distance from Exeter, Plymouth, Bristol, Taunton and several other large towns. I really am quite mystified why you think of the 53million or so people living in England, none of them would think to migrate to the South West!

Having such contempt for your fellow man is done at your peril. People may not know exactly where their food comes from, but they know enough that meat comes from animals. When you're hungry, that's good enough and the yuck factor is easily overcome.

because I don't believe anyone will make it out of the cities alive.
I do get annoyed when people make their remarks personal.
its none of your ****** business.
too many trolls on forums, oh well-I've been thinking for a long time that its time "big paul" died and I need to reduce my forum levels, maybe now is the time.
this is why I don't trust other people.
I am really pissed off now.

Paul, ease up let management take care of comments like that.

Sally that **** aint funny. Even if you did look his info up out curiosity you don't threaten to share it to all on the net. Personally me I don't care so much. No I don't advertise it but I do have an electronic library that I sell just for extra prep money to buy little stuff so my name and address does get out there. Personally you making a comment like that to me if we were in person I would punch you right in the face and then walk away. Things get heated sometimes in conversation people get pissed but you have to learn to get over it and move on. You have to let things roll off your shoulders. You do not threaten someone's COMSEC or OPSEC.

 

[MaterielGeneral]

Another comment to Sally, Grayghost668 and I got into a pissing match on a thread a little while ago and as far as I am concerned its over and we moved on to bigger things(I assume he feels the same way). At no point did I even think about outing him in any manner. I think you owe Paul an apology. As far as I am concerned its over and I will shut up now.

 

[user 6493]

getting a little testy around here,I am going to just sit and watch and see where this goes

 

[MaterielGeneral]

yeah being politically correct is killing this country,,,hell a large portion of the modern world,,,I call a spade a spade and believe that is the way it should be,no trophy's for just showing up ,,,,yeah it is hard not to go on a rant on these type of subjects

Yes you are right my friend. I was on YouTube on a somewhat Christian alternative news channel and a person said that they would rather die instead of taking a life. I told them that they and the modern Christian church was weak. Because of politics and of the world view(which is Satan). If someone tried to hurt my family or friends I would kill in a heart beat. Murder is a sin, not defending yourself or those that are weaker.

 

[SheilaT.]

getting a little testy around here,I am going to just sit and watch and see where this goes

It's going nowhere as far as I'm concerned. Folk are reading things into what's been said and I'm staying out of it.

 

[MaterielGeneral]

getting a little testy around here,I am going to just sit and watch and see where this goes

LOL, I did mention I do not hold my tongue didn't I? I was on another forum that I still attend but about a year ago there were some bullies. When I saw there crap I hammered into them. As long as I am in the right I do not hold back. #1 its the internet so what are they going to do, LOL? When you are some persons house there are still rules that you have to abide to and if they are wrong what are they going to do besides get banned, LOL. People have to defend themselves and pressure those in power to follow their rules if not they loose members.

 

[lonewolf]

this is why I dislike most people and prefer animals to people.
I just don't understand these people that say they will trust some stranger post SHTF just because they think they need others to survive, that is liable to get you a knife in the ribs one dark night.

 

[lonewolf]

It's going nowhere as far as I'm concerned. Folk are reading things into what's been said and I'm staying out of it.

so, no apology? figures!

 

[lonewolf]

what people have to realise is that every civilisation in the past has collapsed, this one is not exempt we just have further to fall.
in the past when civilisations collapsed the technology was so basic ordinary people were able to supply their daily needs by their own labour and simply sit back and wait for "civilisation" to reappear, this will not be possible with our level of technology, once that collapses and without a manufacturing base to supply our daily needs most people wont be able to survive and so the mortality rate will be huge, sure a few will survive-they always do-but the numbers will be miniscule.

 

[user 6493]

this is why I dislike most people and prefer animals to people.
I just don't understand these people that say they will trust some stranger post SHTF just because they think they need others to survive, that is liable to get you a knife in the ribs one dark night.

maybe I am paranoid but in a SHTF situation it is going to be hard for me to trust anyone that I don't already know and there are those I do know that I already don't trust,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,SHTF will only magnify's everything

 

[lonewolf]

maybe I am paranoid but in a SHTF situation it is going to be hard for me to trust anyone that I don't already know and there are those I do know that I already don't trust,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,SHTF will only magnify's everything

yes, my sentiments exactly.

 

[user 6493]

for all,

we each have our own plans if the SHTF,,,,,now I may not like your plan and you may not like mine but we each get to make our own choices ,you do not (for lack of words) attack someone because you don't like their plans,

no one is saying their way is the best way it is just their life their choice

 

[user 6493]

yes, my sentiments exactly.

to a degree we think alike,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I hope we never have to put our plans to the test

 

[lonewolf]

to a degree we think alike,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I hope we never have to put our plans to the test

maybe, maybe not, but the way things are going in the wider world these days, I think its inevitable, its just a matter of when not if.

 

[user 6493]

maybe, maybe not, but the way things are going in the wider world these days, I think its inevitable, its just a matter of when not if.

I try not to think about it to much,,,,,it is depressing and I can not do a damned thing about it

 

[lonewolf]

its dosent depress me that much, I've been expecting it for a long time, when you've got 7 billion humans on the planet something eventually has to happen, its just a matter of when, next year? 5 years? 10 years? no not 10 years it'll happen sooner than we think.
I dislike the 21st century and most of the people in it so bring it on!

 

[user 6493]

it is why I don't dwell on it,I was around for the Cuban missile crisis and I have seen all the crap over the years,I am amazed that the idiots in charge have not already blown the world to hell,,I hold out hope that I never see it happen

I want to pass in my sleep not from hunger or in a blood fight,,,,,well time will tell,

 

[toexist]

its dosent depress me that much,
I dislike the 21st century and most of the people in it so bring it on!

No offense man but you have some serious issues. I'm sure something really bad happened to you and I'm sorry it did but with statements like this...it's hard to feel sorry for you.

It's one thing to be a doom n gloomer but to actually HOPE & WISH for such an event is pretty messed up. If you're not aware enough to realize this than you have bigger problems than the apocalypse.

I've been wronged plenty and yea there are many people I don't care for. That doesn't mean I'm wishing for the extermination of entire segments of human civilization.

Preparing is one thing but wishing for it is another.

 

[lonewolf]

I've been wronged plenty and yea there are many people I don't care for. That doesn't mean I'm wishing for the extermination of entire segments of human civilization.

Preparing is one thing but wishing for it is another.

not wishing for it, but I think its inevitable.
I think the human race has come too far, I don't think we were supposed to evolve to this level, and its now out of hand, a redressing of the balance of nature is required and necessary.
you do realise that 90% of the species that once lived on the earth are now extinct? and most of that is down to us humans.

 

[toexist]

not wishing for it, but I think its inevitable.
I think the human race has come too far, I don't think we were supposed to evolve to this level, and its now out of hand, a redressing of the balance of nature is required and necessary.
you do realise that 90% of the species that once lived on the earth are now extinct? and most of that is down to us humans.

Alrighy....

 

[toexist]

There's this survivalist series entitled "Alone" which I saw recently. They take 10 people equipped with basic tools (no firearms :-/ ) and drop them off at different parts of the rainforest. They're to receive no human interaction whatsoever and the last person to remain wins $500k.

Ironically what caused most of them to quit wasn't hunger or dehydration...it was...loneliness. People just couldn't stand being alone for prolonged periods of time. Something to think about.

 

[lonewolf]

There's this survivalist series entitled "Alone" which I saw recently. They take 10 people equipped with basic tools (no firearms :-/ ) and drop them off at different parts of the rainforest. They're to receive no human interaction whatsoever and the last person to remain wins $500k.

Ironically what caused most of them to quit wasn't hunger or dehydration...it was...loneliness. People just couldn't stand being alone for prolonged periods of time. Something to think about.

I THRIVE on being alone, its people that piss me off!!
i'm the original loner, in a previous life I think I was a hermit, or more likely a recluse.

 

[user 6493]

nothing wrong with being a loner,,,,a 150 years ago ,the mountains and a dog and I would have been just fine,people will let you down at times,,,you do realize that there is only one person in the whole world that will never let you down or abandon you,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,that is yourself

 

[lonewolf]

nothing wrong with being a loner,,,,a 150 years ago ,the mountains and a dog and I would have been just fine,people will let you down at times,,,you do realize that there is only one person in the whole world that will never let you down or abandon you,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,that is yourself

yes, I've always said I was born at the wrong time.
I've always been ok with my own company, I was brought up as an only child having being adopted after birth mother couldn't keep me, so I suppose that was the start of it.

 

[toexist]

nothing wrong with being a loner,,,,a 150 years ago ,the mountains and a dog and I would have been just fine,people will let you down at times,,,you do realize that there is only one person in the whole world that will never let you down or abandon you,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,that is yourself

Yes but having a dog isn't truly being alone.

 

[lonewolf]

Yes but having a dog isn't truly being alone.

a dog is always useful, people are a liability in most cases.

 

[toexist]

a dog is always useful, people are a liability in most cases.

I don't have a problem with dogs. Thing is in the world you're welcoming...it would be quite difficult to have one.

Unfortunately they would become a liability. If they bark or engage at the wrong moment they could put your life & their own in danger.

I love dogs but in a chaotic situation I wouldn't want to risk the animals life unnecessarily.

 

[user 6493]

Yes but having a dog isn't truly being alone.

a dog,,they never argue they don't care about what you look like your car your house or how much money you have and they are always happy to see you when you come home,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,how many people can you say that about,,,,,,,,,I don't know any

 

[toexist]

a dog,,they never argue they don't care about what you look like your car your house or how much money you have and they are always happy to see you when you come home,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,how many people can you say that about,,,,,,,,,I don't know any

You're preaching to the choir as it relates to dogs. I'm referring to the case of a unlikely catastrophic life-changing event.

 

[user 6493]

the only thing people have over a dog is 4 fingers and a thumb