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Just have to wonder what is going to happen to the farms that most rely on are going to do in the future. . . If family are not willing to take on the responsibility. Think that people need to wake up and do their own home gardens. It was popular back in the day, it needs to be again.
 
There are probably bits and pieces of all these theories that will be true when they finally spring their trap. They might be doing all of it. Buying thousands of acres for farmland AND concentration camps. That way they can force you to farm it for them, for nothing more than food.
 
We only have 10 acres. . . but yet none of the kids are willing to take it on. Just dont understand . If I was your "kid" I would have jumped on the opportunity. That is a huge offer to be self reliant being free and clear. An amazing offer. . .
Plus that land was heavily timbered too. With proper management they could have logged it for many years and paid for their early retirement.
 
There are too many to list here. But try looking up on you tube, something to the effect of, "conspiracy theories that turned out to be true" watch a few of them. And they will blow your mind. Some of the things we know now, that happened then, and they got away with it, are atrocious. People really need to stop thinking that just because something is a "conspiracy theory" now, that it won't be conspiracy fact later.
 
Plus that land was heavily timbered too. With proper management they could have logged it for many years and paid for their early retirement.
We have the same mind set of being self sufficient that I can say I am proud of. Maybe it is our age and upbringings. I just dont understand the younger generation apparently. Even though they lived under our upbringings, I can say at least one of the 4 boys are willing to put in a small garden that his family can benefit from.
 
I believe that Jeff Bezos owns more.
 
My kids don’t care about the gardens, fruit trees or self sufficiency here either. I think people that have had some challenging times and had to work hard appreciate the security of these things. The current generations have had it too easy and take things like food for granted. Maybe it was our fault by giving them too much. Some days I’m tempted to sell it all and just travel and play the rest of my days.....
 
Bill and Melinda Gates have stated that one of their goals is to be able to feed the growing number of people in the world. Why would buying farm lands be anything other than them working on ways to actually do that? I don’t understand why everyone is so willing to believe in all the crazy conspiracy theories.

Gates goals are never the goals he talks about, if you believe Gates then that is your right, but I don't believe anything the guy says.
Gates belongs in my view in a prison and there in the darkest cell, the guy is as wrong as Klaus Schwab and both mean it guaranteed not good with the normal population.

For Gates and Schwab you and I and others here in this forum are only a piece of dirt that is good for work, unless of course you are adopted into his family clan or work with him.
Do not be disappointed if you wake up one day when the storm troopers smash the bag at you, arrest you for no reason and put you in a FEMA camp, then you can continue to dream of Gates diet plan, you dürfend but then participate in his vaccination experiments, there was once a German doctor who liked to experiment with vaccines like Gates did in Africa.
 
God grief the paranoia on this forum is now insane. School dropout does good, becomes billionaire, spents billions helping others but is suddenly the devil incarnate. I remember BEFORE the buy out when this forum was the bastion of level headed thinking and prepping.
Now there is more nutjobs than preppers.
 
Gates goals are never the goals he talks about, if you believe Gates then that is your right, but I don't believe anything the guy says.
Gates belongs in my view in a prison and there in the darkest cell, the guy is as wrong as Klaus Schwab and both mean it guaranteed not good with the normal population.

For Gates and Schwab you and I and others here in this forum are only a piece of dirt that is good for work, unless of course you are adopted into his family clan or work with him.
Do not be disappointed if you wake up one day when the storm troopers smash the bag at you, arrest you for no reason and put you in a FEMA camp, then you can continue to dream of Gates diet plan, you dürfend but then participate in his vaccination experiments, there was once a German doctor who liked to experiment with vaccines like Gates did in Africa.
I’m good with everyone having their own opinions about things. I don’t see any evidence about Bill and Melindas foundations and philanthropy being evil though. They are dedicating their lives to giving away their fortunes and doing good for mankind. Other than jealousy that they got so rich, how could that be turned into a dark conspiracy? I’m sure I would have different ideas of how to help people from some of his programs, as many could, but I think if you are trying to improve people’s lives in any way it’s a good thing.
 
I’m good with everyone having their own opinions about things. I don’t see any evidence about Bill and Melindas foundations and philanthropy being evil though. They are dedicating their lives to giving away their fortunes and doing good for mankind. Other than jealousy that they got so rich, how could that be turned into a dark conspiracy? I’m sure I would have different ideas of how to help people from some of his programs, as many could, but I think if you are trying to improve people’s lives in any way it’s a good thing.

Yes, the Bill and Melinda Foundation gives for example Swissmedic and other Medic approval authorities in other countries several hundred thousand dollars every year, that's a fact. One can honestly say that it is also a kind of bribery that the approval of Gates Medic is a little bit accelerated, these are old drunkard rules, you give me something, I give you something another time.

Besides, even the WHO has confirmed somewhere that a new polio epidemic has broken out somewhere in Africa after Bill and Melinda's foundation "gave" a new polio vaccine to the people. Furthermore, there are still reports from the country that very many women after a vaccination campaign could no longer bear children, one denies the connections, but Bill's goal is still the population reduction, and he does not deny that.
 
I believe that Jeff Bezos owns more.

He does. The Wal-Mart heirs own more, the guy that invented mass-produced French fries own more. If we expand the definition of "farmland" to include beef ranches and citrus, Gates drops to the middle of the pack (of the top 100).

I don't think it's really scary- at least not because of Bill Gates. He's a cog in a much bigger wheel, going back much farther.

If you're eating corn or soy or beet-derived sugar in the US you're, almost certainly eating GMO foods. If you're eating beef, pork, chicken- basically any meat purchased from your local chain grocery store (including a lot of farmed seafood), those animals were fed GMO foods. Bill Gates could plant every acre wall-to-wall with GMO crops and it'd be a drop in the bucket, because everyone's already doing it anyway.

The large-scale farms (which are typically corporate affairs anyway) don't have a choice- there's only a small handful of seed dealers, the seed's already treated with whatever proprietary pesticides, herbicides, fungicides, and other chemicals the seed company chooses- and they're not interested in letting farmers know what exactly they're putting into the ground. That ignorance is generally passed on to the consumer.

Most of the big farms with the new machinery are using some pretty sophisticated software, hardware, GPS, etc. You can plot out what parts of which fields are most productive, you can deliver precise amounts of fertilizer to different portions of a field based on soil type. Most all that stuff runs, some way or another, on Windows. Bill Gates wouldn't need to own an acre of land to disrupt those big, corporate farms. He'd just need to flip a switch.

The big scary thing Bill Gates represents isn't exclusive to Bill Gates. Productive farmland is a finite resource, it's a commodity, like anything else. And when farm prices get up to $10,000 or $15,000 an acre, you or I can't go to the bank and get a loan to start up a new farm. And if you already have 500 acres, but need 1000 to get into the black...you can roll the dice with a bank loan just to break even, or you can sell to Bill Gates (or any other corporate farmer) for considerable profit. The exorbitant farm prices prevent young farmers from taking on the task, they prevent small established farms from growing, they push small operators onto less productive land, and they consolidate most of the commodity crops (corn, soy, pigs, beef) into a handful of international conglomerates.

You wind up going back to tenant farmers and feudal landlords. THAT'S the scary part, and it's way beyond Bill Gates.
 
Yes, the Bill and Melinda Foundation gives for example Swissmedic and other Medic approval authorities in other countries several hundred thousand dollars every year, that's a fact. One can honestly say that it is also a kind of bribery that the approval of Gates Medic is a little bit accelerated, these are old drunkard rules, you give me something, I give you something another time.

Besides, even the WHO has confirmed somewhere that a new polio epidemic has broken out somewhere in Africa after Bill and Melinda's foundation "gave" a new polio vaccine to the people. Furthermore, there are still reports from the country that very many women after a vaccination campaign could no longer bear children, one denies the connections, but Bill's goal is still the population reduction, and he does not deny that.
Population control is the one thing that would solve all of the planets problems. If the population was reduced by half then so much of the hunger, pollution and wars would be eliminated. One generation of birth control could solve many issues quickly and efficiently. Of course no politician would ever say that out loud.
As far as Gates giving people polio and sterilizing people I call BS. And if he is giving medical organizations money and you see a dark side to it then you’re a bit paranoid. I’m not picking on you personally here, but the issues you mentioned are all positive about what he is doing in Africa. As far as anyone becoming unable to bear children, there are a myriad of possible causes from both man made and natural causes. I wasn’t able to find any definitive articles about a sterility outbreak in Africa in a quick search online just now either. Just because Gates has stated, as I did, that birth control could easily fix most of mankind’s issues dosent mean he wants to subvertly sterilize the world.
 
I am suspicious of any million or billionare labelled "philanthropist" but then that is just me.
When you have amassed as much money as Gates, musk and Bezos what else are you going to do with all that money? You couldn’t possible spend that much. Why not give to projects you believe in?
 
Population control is the one thing that would solve all of the planets problems. If the population was reduced by half then so much of the hunger, pollution and wars would be eliminated. One generation of birth control could solve many issues quickly and efficiently. Of course no politician would ever say that out loud.
As far as Gates giving people polio and sterilizing people I call BS. And if he is giving medical organizations money and you see a dark side to it then you’re a bit paranoid. I’m not picking on you personally here, but the issues you mentioned are all positive about what he is doing in Africa. As far as anyone becoming unable to bear children, there are a myriad of possible causes from both man made and natural causes. I wasn’t able to find any definitive articles about a sterility outbreak in Africa in a quick search online just now either. Just because Gates has stated, as I did, that birth control could easily fix most of mankind’s issues dosent mean he wants to subvertly sterilize the world.
I agree that the world would be a better place with half the current population. Since we both agree on that point, do you want to be the first in line to reduce yourself?
 
And if he is giving medical organizations money and you see a dark side to it then you’re a bit paranoid.

If I am paranoid about this then you are glorifying a criminal.
Gates has certainly done good when he was still developing operating systems for computers, but I trust no one, absolutely no computer scientist or PC genius who now only wants to improve the world with syringes or vaccines.
Gates is not a doctor, has probably only marginally learned something about medicine and he now wants to position himself as a world savior and is already hoping for the next big pandemic.
One thing is clear to me, he does not lack money and he will probably have infinite money to spend like the Amazon boss, but do you know what the problem is, that exactly people like Gates, Bezos and Zuckerberg undermine democracy with your money and put themselves as rulers over their own government, regardless of what happened with Trump.
I'm not doing you the favor of discussing Trump here, I respect your opinion that you don't like him, but you'll have to admit that censorship has gained a lot of power since Trump was voted out of office, and that will affect not only people with my opinion, but also you at some point in the future.
For that reason, you shouldn't trust people like Gates too much, because his policies could end up making you one of many numbers.
 
I agree that the world would be a better place with half the current population. Since we both agree on that point, do you want to be the first in line to reduce yourself?
Hey, I did my part with a vasectomy years ago! Lol. The beauty of birth control is no one is killed, sent to a concentration camp or anything like that. We simply cut the number of children by half and in one generation the problem is solved. Orphanages would be a thing of the past. There would be plenty of farm lands even with letting a lot of it go back to forests. I see only upsides to it.
 
It’s very, very odd. Concentration camps? I wonder how some dpf members even get through the day.
Nope. Think back a couple hundred years when there were estates all over Europe. They were run by barons and other noblemen. The people who did the work were serfs, aka peasants. Get ready. Here it comes. In my genealogy research, I learned that the peasants were not that different than slaves, and their owners even selected who most of them married.
 
If I am paranoid about this then you are glorifying a criminal.
Gates has certainly done good when he was still developing operating systems for computers, but I trust no one, absolutely no computer scientist or PC genius who now only wants to improve the world with syringes or vaccines.
Gates is not a doctor, has probably only marginally learned something about medicine and he now wants to position himself as a world savior and is already hoping for the next big pandemic.
One thing is clear to me, he does not lack money and he will probably have infinite money to spend like the Amazon boss, but do you know what the problem is, that exactly people like Gates, Bezos and Zuckerberg undermine democracy with your money and put themselves as rulers over their own government, regardless of what happened with Trump.
I'm not doing you the favor of discussing Trump here, I respect your opinion that you don't like him, but you'll have to admit that censorship has gained a lot of power since Trump was voted out of office, and that will affect not only people with my opinion, but also you at some point in the future.
For that reason, you shouldn't trust people like Gates too much, because his policies could end up making you one of many numbers.
I’m not in agreement of with the crazy cancel culture and censorship either. I do think that there should be consequences for slandering people or companies with baseless claims though. My biggest issue with censorship is who gets to decide what to censure. In the 50’s the far right ruined people’s careers with McCarthyism. Now it’s the far left that’s doing the same thing. I believe it was wrong in both cases.
 
Shouldn't it be a couples decision to have a child or not no matter what their race, economical situation is? With a vaccine taking that "right" away is just devastating to the parents but especially the female.
 
Shouldn't it be a couples decision to have a child or not no matter what their race, economical situation is? With a vaccine taking that "right" away is just devastating to the parents but especially the female.
The idea that the vaccine is causing sterilization is pure conspiracy speculation. It’s just more of the Q Anon crap that floats around the internet. There is no reputable evidence to support any truth to this.
 
The idea that the vaccine is causing sterilization is pure conspiracy speculation. It’s just more of the Q Anon crap that floats around the internet. There is no reputable evidence to support any truth to this.
Even my soon to be DIL who works at a hospital has concerns about the sterilization of the covid vaccine. I know she wants kids and at this point, I can only hope she still can. It's not just a Q Anon theory.
 
GMO foods are still mainly illegal in the UK, no one trusts them.
I believe the fear is somewhat misplaced, but not entirely. There is a potato plant that also grows tomatoes called fries with ketchup. It’s just splicing plants together for more desired traits. I have no problem with that as it is similar to what nature does with evolution. The part I don’t like is when a plant has an herbicide built in to kill the weeds around it. Somehow ingesting toxins dosent seem wise to me.
 
Even my soon to be DIL who works at a hospital has concerns about the sterilization of the covid vaccine. I know she wants kids and at this point, I can only hope she still can. It's not just a Q Anon theory.
I am only sure of one thing on this. The covid vaccines are new. So far the evidence seems to show they are safe with minimal side effects. But just the fact that they are new and haven’t been tested over long times means there may be side effects that show up down the road. Right now though there is no indications of anything like this happening. So far they are conjecture with no medical evidence and are just theories that scare people.
 
I am only sure of one thing on this. The covid vaccines are new. So far the evidence seems to show they are safe with minimal side effects. But just the fact that they are new and haven’t been tested over long times means there may be side effects that show up down the road. Right now though there is no indications of anything like this happening. So far they are conjecture with no medical evidence and are just theories that scare people.
The Pfizer vaccine is very scare to me. . . look at how many have had major side effects and deaths. I can not trust something that is brand new like this vaccine or the others that are Mr. . whatever it is. Johnson and Johnson is coming out with more of a traditional vaccine that I would be more willing to trust, even though I will choose not to take a vaccine, but if I would have to chose one that one would be it.
 

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