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This is how our Inuit friends preserved caribou. They do the same with Arctic Char.What if you have to process the meat from a medium to large animal?
What if you are catching fish?
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This is how our Inuit friends preserved caribou. They do the same with Arctic Char.What if you have to process the meat from a medium to large animal?
What if you are catching fish?
The LifePO4 cells I just got and need to get hooked up have an 8,000 cycle life. By my count that's better than 20 years at one a day!A lot of talk of solar and batteries being used for for post-apolitical refrigeration. Even talk of using propane and fuel. My question is when society has collapsed and there is no supplier of parts or new batteries, let alone a way of getting them delivered to your homestead, how long do people expect to actually live this way with refrigeration? One year, 3 years, more?
My grandparents cooled food, and milk from their small dairy farm, all summer long with ice harvested from nearby lakes.
But aren't they being recharged constantly during the day time? Or, is the continuous solar charge considered one charge cycle?The LifePO4 cells I just got and need to get hooked up have an 8,000 cycle life. By my count that's better than 20 years at one a day!
Solar charging is considered once a day charging. But these claim they can cycle from 10% to 90% 8,000 times they will never see 10% or 90% because I'll run them pretty much between 30% and 80% and still have a lot more usable amp hours or watt hours than I've ever had. Not pulling them as far in either direction should extend their life span some too.But aren't they being recharged constantly during the day time? Or, is the continuous solar charge considered one charge cycle?
Do they need to be heated during winter?
Well it is good to see that this got derailed with consumables right off the get go. Where do we get propane 8 years in, My description was of a built in place Ice house, that doesn't require a lake nearby, and a crew to cut Ice blocks etc, History is really cool, but being able to just freeze a block in place without much effort except perhaps removing snow from the heat rejector .
Now stay on track kids.
1500 Gallon buried tank last a long time...i could get 10 years out of it if had too. I know folks with multiple tanks.A lot of talk of solar and batteries being used for for post-apolitical refrigeration. Even talk of using propane and fuel. My question is when society has collapsed and there is no supplier of parts or new batteries, let alone a way of getting them delivered to your homestead, how long do people expect to actually live this way with refrigeration? One year, 3 years, more?
I could never fill a single 1500 gallon tank with food. Our shallow ground water is at a temp of 45ºF year around, so a buried tank would definitely keep things cool.1500 Gallon buried tank last a long time...i could get 10 years out of it if had too. I know folks with multiple tanks.
1500 gallon PROPANE TANK for holding fuel...they can be above or below ground. its for running items inside home..not filled with food...guess i need to be more exact next time.I could never fill a single 1500 gallon tank with food. Our shallow ground water is at a temp of 45ºF year around, so a buried tank would definitely keep things cool.
Lets just say I have some used appliances laying around for use!I hope your refrigeration lasts as long as your batteries.![]()
I have always been fascinated with the propane-powered refrigerators in RV's, no electricity needed.A friend of mine had a floating logging camp. He bought two propane refrigerators. He broke the stop on the dial of one fridge and used it for a freezer.
Someone (Sourdough?), said that our situation would make the difference of which option we decided on for off grid refrigeration. All the different ideas listed here is the strength of our family.
Some suggest that we will wear out our refrigerators or run out of fuel. I’d truly be blessed if I lived that long.
In the 1930s, the first propane powered refrigerators hit the market, under the name SERVEL. Refrigeration was relatively new to the mass consumer market, and these refrigerators became popular in a time when many of the homes lacked electricity.
What is ice on a lake?A lot of talk of solar and batteries being used for for post-apolitical refrigeration. Even talk of using propane and fuel. My question is when society has collapsed and there is no supplier of parts or new batteries, let alone a way of getting them delivered to your homestead, how long do people expect to actually live this way with refrigeration? One year, 3 years, more?
My grandparents cooled food, and milk from their small dairy farm, all summer long with ice harvested from nearby lakes.
Pay attention, the tanker was full of sand, the fuel was stored in the vehiclesPsssstttt
We can always pull a road warrior and steal a tanker full now to use later
Naaaa. Havasu would kick my butt
A while back I got all the parts to make one of there. The very basic DIY kind (made out of cinder blocks, wire mesh, pot supports). Do you have a commercial one? Or something you built yourself? How well does it work in practice? While I have the parts and knowledge of how to construct one out of cinder blocks, I have never actually tried cooking on it.and a rocket stove that cooks with sticks
I've got at 3 least 3 years of propane and two years of diesel and gasoline. When that runs out I'll figure something else out.A lot of talk of solar and batteries being used for for post-apolitical refrigeration. Even talk of using propane and fuel. My question is when society has collapsed and there is no supplier of parts or new batteries, let alone a way of getting them delivered to your homestead, how long do people expect to actually live this way with refrigeration? One year, 3 years, more?
My grandparents cooled food, and milk from their small dairy farm, all summer long with ice harvested from nearby lakes.
There were Servels that ran on kerosene too.First Servel i ever seen or heard of ran on kerosene.I have always been fascinated with the propane-powered refrigerators in RV's, no electricity needed.
How do you use the heat from a propane flame to refrigerate stuff?
Interesting study into how they work.
I can't believe they didn't upscale them larger for people that live where there is no electric power.
Seems like most are relying on stored fossil fuels and modern technology (which is short term) for refrigeration. I would like to know what these people are planning to do after they run out of fuel, or a hail storm or a falling tree permanently knocks out their solar panels, or their batteries fail. In my mind, many are not answering your question.There is little or no discussion of refrigeration, long term post collapse. other than the use of heat pump type refrigerators powered by electric or RV style ammonia absorption stuff. both work well but are not very user serviceable
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