What Shortages are You Seeing?

[Camalot]

Yep. So that they can Build Back Better.
Retarded.

You know I used to be retarded? Heck, that means I probably still am! lol

I was at Wal-mart in Stigler yesterday and found the best value crackers on the top shelf. I bought 6 boxes. .98 and as good as Zesta or Premium. I even like Sunshine but 3.00 a box is a lot for crackers. I

 

[Tommyice]

I hadn't seen saltines in months and I've got 4 supermarket within 4 miles of my house. I had even checked when going to dollar stores and Walgreen's and CVS'. Finally got them at one of the supermarkets. There were 5 boxes. None of them were the national brands or even the store brand. It was a brand I had never seen before--Crisp & Classic Cracker Company. The packing is much more substantial than Nabisco or the others and the interior sleeves are mylar--not that wax paper stuff. They are made in India. They are the best tasting saltines I've had in a very long time--just wish there weren't "unsalted tops."

Dog foods were very scarce. Only stuff on the shelf was Rachel Ray's and Iams. My little pooch gets Purina and there was none. I have plenty at home but wanted to pick up a spare bag because I had a decent coupon for it.

 

[elkhound]

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopoliti...ng-global-food-shortage-should-chill-you-core

 

[SLADE]

russians weaponizing food.

 

[JustMe]

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopoliti...ng-global-food-shortage-should-chill-you-core

I have begun to wonder if we are finally seeing the effects of food shortages that have actually been in the works for a few years, atleast.

What I mean to say is.......remember several years ago when there was a rice shortage??? All the rains & floods that wiped out crops?? Either from late spring or early winter weather events, etc, etc.......yet there was still plenty of food on the shelves and prices didn't fluctuate very much?? All pre-scamdemic of course.

That maybe our and the worlds storages were used to fill the needs at that time, but have now run short and because of the scamdemic and lockdowns and whatever as used up those reserves??? Sounds almost familiar with Bidens oil plan, of using up reserves.


Back in the beginning of this current mess of 2020 and beyond, and the tp shortage there was an article going around about food banks stocking up warehouses. It mentioned this happening in a few states, but never mentioned which states were involved, other than here in WA. At the time, I was thinking it was kinda out of place to be stocking food, when only the tp was missing. Which also didn't make sense, because at the time 'it was just a flu' and there wasn't any panic going on.

Just made me wonder if there wasn't some stocking up happening before we the little people were aware.

 

[Weedygarden]

I have begun to wonder if we are finally seeing the effects of food shortages that have actually been in the works for a few years, atleast.

What I mean to say is.......remember several years ago when there was a rice shortage??? All the rains & floods that wiped out crops?? Either from late spring or early winter weather events, etc, etc.......yet there was still plenty of food on the shelves and prices didn't fluctuate very much?? All pre-scamdemic of course.

That maybe our and the worlds storages were used to fill the needs at that time, but have now run short and because of the scamdemic and lockdowns and whatever as used up those reserves??? Sounds almost familiar with Bidens oil plan, of using up reserves.


Back in the beginning of this current mess of 2020 and beyond, and the tp shortage there was an article going around about food banks stocking up warehouses. It mentioned this happening in a few states, but never mentioned which states were involved, other than here in WA. At the time, I was thinking it was kinda out of place to be stocking food, when only the tp was missing. Which also didn't make sense, because at the time 'it was just a flu' and there wasn't any panic going on.

Just made me wonder if there wasn't some stocking up happening before we the little people were aware.

Count on the fact that all the "important" politicians have stockpiles and have a certain level of preparedness.

 

[UrbanHunter]

Count on the fact that all the "important" politicians have stockpiles and have a certain level of preparedness.

I don't give the "self Important" politicians that much credit, they assume that they will be protected but I have very strong doubts that any of them are anywhere near ready for the S storm that is about to hit them.
Now, I do believe that they intend to use their "power" to take what they want from the supplies that are available, just like the Soviet bureaucrats.

 

[UrbanHunter]

Back to shortages, I am seeing shortages of the inexpensive meats, but I am seeing an abundance of organic "special" meats at 4 times the price. I picked up a turkey breast of that variety (the wife wants to roast and slice her own lunch type meats) and when I looked at the price it was $8/lb, we are talking about a $50 turkey breast. I have also seen $75 leg of lamb (no bone). My point is that there are no shortages for those who can afford $10+/pound food.

Now if you are like me on a hamburger budget, ho wait.. I can't afford hamburger at these prices... I guess if you are on a Raman noodle budget things may get tight soon...

 

[SLADE]

order # 10998. Anti hoarding law.

 

[JustMe]

Back to shortages, I am seeing shortages of the inexpensive meats, but I am seeing an abundance of organic "special" meats at 4 times the price. I picked up a turkey breast of that variety (the wife wants to roast and slice her own lunch type meats) and when I looked at the price it was $8/lb, we are talking about a $50 turkey breast. I have also seen $75 leg of lamb (no bone). My point is that there are no shortages for those who can afford $10+/pound food.

Now if you are like me on a hamburger budget, ho wait.. I can't afford hamburger at these prices... I guess if you are on a Raman noodle budget things may get tight soon...

Agreed, that the less expensive stuff is harder to find. You might do better just buying a whole turkey, then preserve the leftovers

 

[JustMe]

I've been trying to find the article I mentioned previously and can't find the specific one, but did find this..........

State stockpiling shelf-stable foods to feed a record number of people in need due to pandemic – KIRO 7 News Seattle


it doesn't include the info on the other states, that the original article had,, but only runs with the WA story angle........and that makes me wonder if the story has been 'scrubbed for cleaning'.




ok, sorry, didn't mean to hijack

 

[UrbanHunter]

State stockpiling shelf-stable foods to feed a record number of people in need due to pandemic – KIRO 7 News Seattle

It's an interesting article from August, 2020; I do not see a lot of other stories on the subject. Their numbers are staggering with expectations of about 25% of the people being food insecure (going hungry?).

It is a nice story but they say they can store up to 2000 pallets, say 54,000 cubic feet of shelf stable foods, assuming food weight about 11.2 pounds per cubic foot (don't ask how I know) and the average person needs 450 pounds of food per year. Then the state of Washington was planning to store enough food for 1346 people for 1 year. This is in a state of 7 Million. Imagine if you were in a state with 330 million people in it.

I think the story is targeted to make people think that they are safe and secure. They want people to believe that the state is in a position to take care of them... From a National perspective they would only need 246 thousand of those warehouses to do the job, I just don't see it happening..

 

[Amish Heart]

Only saw shortages in the meat section, water, frozen foods, paper products, and canned biscuits sections in Aldi today. Mostly noticed the price jumps. A pound of Aldi butter went to $3.08. I remember $1.98 at Christmastime. The only canned food that was the same price as last week was corn and green beans. Everything else jumped. A can of black beans went up to 61 cents a can.

 

[MoBookworm1957]

I think it might be time to teach the grand children how to make "Spaghetti" noodles.
These will be made out of rice flour cause someone has to be gluten free.
If he wants me to make bagels for him, then he needs to learn to help make them.
Digging the candy presses out to make different shape pasta yea ha.
They are concerned there will never be anymore "Spaghetti noodles in their futures.
Grand children are 1, 4, 6, and 9.

 

[ladycat]

Is there a vinegar shortage?

While I was doing the Amazon deal posts yesterday, I found the Heinz Apple Cider Vinegar in a bundle of 4 1-gallon jugs for $7. It's been so long since I bought any, that I had no idea if that was a good price.

So when I went to do the price comparison for the post, it was out of stock everywhere in the gallon jugs. I finally found a price of $6.30 a gallon at Walmart, but OOS. That sounded a bit steep, but by looking at the price on the quart bottles at Walmart and several other stores, I figured that must be correct.

On a whim, I looked at white vinegar at the various stores, and saw that it also seems to be scarce at some of them.

 

[Amish Heart]

I saw white vinegar at Aldi earlier this week for $2.49 a gallon. They had apple cider, too, but I didn't price it.
Walmart was mostly stocked, but up in price.

 

[Bacpacker]

I saw gallons at the dollar store tonight. Didn't think to look at the price. But will be going this weekend and getting enough for at least 2 years

 

[UrbanHunter]

I did my weekly run this morning, most things were fine. Then I got to the meat counter and it was completely empty, but it was not a shortage per say, I think the storms we had caused some power spikes and they lost a full (40 foot long) display of beef, pork, and poultry. That will leave a mark....

I got 2 kinds of vinegar, a little expensive but they had what I needed. Thankfully they had everything on my list.

 

[elkhound]

@jazzy and others

crp acres...the 4million acres they been talking about are acres tat contract has ended or just ending. not the rest of of acres. usda now saying they will not do anything to acres and are going to allow farmers and markets dictate if they put acres in or out of crp. to my understanding theres 20some million acres total in program but this 4 million figure was was expiring acres. so this week usda put out numbers..i screenshot them for yall to see yaselves.some stayed out some stayed in.i am thinking some of these new acres and re-enrolled acres might be farmers in drought zones.it could be only revenue they have till rains come and more snowpack fall in winter to fill reservoirs for more irrigation water..but who knows for sure.not sure of time table crp acres are tied up for.

also sunflower oil is skyrocketed globally and its caused other edible oil to do so as well. in lebanon sunflower oil is now 5x the price it was.

 

[Magus]

The DG, family dollar and Walmart grocery are getting pretty picked over.

 

[ladycat]

@jazzy and others
also sunflower oil is skyrocketed globally and its caused other edible oil to do so as well. in lebanon sunflower oil is now 5x the price it was.

Yeah, I found that out! Sunflower oil is what I use for the very small amount of frying I do. Walmart way raised the price on the one I use, but at the same time has stayed out of stock.
Fortunately I was able to stock up on a couple of Amazon deals, though how they can offer it cheap, I have no idea.
Amazon often has an abundant supply of what everyone else is out of, AND can still have great sales on it. It makes me wonder what goes on behind the scenes.
But I can't complain when I'm able to get what I need.

 

[Weedygarden]

A can of black beans went up to 61 cents a can.

The cheapest I've seen for black beans was 69 cents, but that price is gone now.

I saw gallons at the dollar store tonight. Didn't think to look at the price. But will be going this weekend and getting enough for at least 2 years

Something I learned about shopping at dollar stores is that liquids are often watered down, with concentrations being greatly reduced. I've seen this with hydrogen peroxide and isopropyl alcohol. I am now careful about purchasing things like that there, at any dollar store.

 

[ladycat]

Something I learned about shopping at dollar stores is that liquids are often watered down, with concentrations being greatly reduced. I've seen this with hydrogen peroxide and isopropyl alcohol. I am now careful about purchasing things like that there, at any dollar store.

That's why I buy only name brands of some products, like Clorox.
Store brands of chlorine bleach are not only weaker, but much less stable, so they lose their effectiveness altogether fairly quickly.

I no longer shop at dollar stores (nearest one is 45 minutes away and I have no car), but when I did, I learned to become extremely cautious buying food and hba items.

After that report came out about dollar store toothpaste, I went searching, and found an extensive report at the USDA website about the foods at dollar stores. Even for foods packaged here, the ones with their own store brands and those odd brands you don't see anywhere else are mostly made from sub-par ingredients imported from China and other questionable foreign countries.

 

[Weedygarden]

That's why I buy only name brands of some products, like Clorox.
Store brands of chlorine bleach are not only weaker, but much less stable, so they lose their effectiveness altogether fairly quickly.

I no longer shop at dollar stores (nearest one is 45 minutes away and I have no car), but when I did, I learned to become extremely cautious buying food and hba items.

After that report came out about dollar store toothpaste, I went searching, and found an extensive report at the USDA website about the foods at dollar stores. Even for foods packaged here, the ones with their own store brands and those odd brands you don't see anywhere else are mostly made from sub-par ingredients imported from China and other questionable foreign countries.

Thank you! I don't shop at dollar stores much, but used to buy dried beans there. I have purchased other things there over the years, but have not always been happy with what I purchased.

 

[Magus]

Be aware DG has a lot of outsourced goods from China, Peru, Mexico etc.
Read the labels or regret it! I bought a bottle of ranch dressing made in Peru once,
it was so foul the possums wouldn't eat it and the cat turned around and peed on it when he smelled it!
Not joking. stuff tasted faintly of paint!

 

[Smalltimefarmer]

Added 40 lbs of sugar to my stores.

 

[elkhound]

not sure where to put this so i put it here...noaa says a big blizzard coming into dakotas. ranchers have a bunch of newborn beef calves on ground and calving daily. one farmer interviewed says some crop farmers are coming to help him since they dont own cattle. this happened a few years ago and 1,000;s perished. we dont need this hit in livestock.

 

[ladycat]

not sure where to put this so i put it here...noaa says a big blizzard coming into dakotas. ranchers have a bunch of newborn beef calves on ground and calving daily. one farmer interviewed says some crop farmers are coming to help him since they dont own cattle. this happened a few years ago and 1,000;s perished. we dont need this hit in livestock.

Plus, there's this.
https://www.rfdtv.com/story/46264859/utah-state-vet-warns-of-cattle-disease-outbreak

 

[TeeJ]

Plus, there's this.
https://www.rfdtv.com/story/46264859/utah-state-vet-warns-of-cattle-disease-outbreak

That's interesting, because I've seen 10x the cattle in fields this spring that were previously vacant or just had 1-2 horses in them around me. Was hoping that would make getting a side of beef cheaper this fall, but I guess that's not going to happen if this spreads

 

[elkhound]

https://www.zerohedge.com/weather/historic-blizzard-pounds-northern-plains-feet-snow