anybody monitoring russias movements?

[Cavemanjoe]

Let me show you some comments from other US and EU source.
Ukraine was a soverign nation untill that neocon bitch Nuland pumped 5 billion into the hands of neonazis to topple an elected government and replace it with puppets. Russias responce has been reactionary i cant believe the restraint showen by Mr Putin. But once again the fault lies directly at the feet of American forign pollicy along with the blood on their hands.

Washington has set a dangerous precedent by annexing former soviet states through bribery, fraud, infiltration, and deceit. They have done this with relative impunity endangering us all. Unless Washington can be stopped in Ukraine the whole world will pay a price for their relentless march eastward. NATO continues to build its force for the purpose of war not defense. Russia is faced with a tremendous threat from western hegemony and must do whatever it takes to protect itself from the western dogs of war.

 

[Cavemanjoe]

some more ?
Not talking about snipers sent by the US who shot people on both sides? **** you both then. Not saying Janukovich wasn't corrupt but violent regime change sponsored by foreign powers is out of question. You don't remember Ron Paul's preaching.
You pretend the crisis appeared out of thin air. What a load of bs

"Russia is the aggressor " when and where ? Russia dosent have anythign to do with this revolt in Ukraine or this civil war . Damm the US funded NGOs are responsible for this mess and the Ukrainian government in Kiev and the Ukrainian miltary are the aggressors theyve murdered thousands of their own people Where have you been ?

The Western propaganda lies trying to make people believe in these lies about Russia that in contest to the US the Russia sending only the real help in the form of the food,Medicines or volunteers there! and the United States sending there only the weapons and murderers! the freedom fighters from the Donetsk people's republic and Lugansk people's republic has just defend themselves from the Ukrainian Nazi army that dream on about absolute control for their lords from the Americans and Jews that want to control Ukraine and then the Russia and the destabilizing Ukraine is the fault of the Americans/Jews and their puppets from European Union that trying to get rid of everyone that does not want to be the Jewish or American minions! the Syria is destabilized and destroyed just because the Americans and Jews can't control it so they created ISIS for the sake of kill everyone that does not want to go under their absolute control!

 

[Cavemanjoe]

and more:

The Ukrainian Nazis still bombing the civilian targets like the hospitals or schools!
the freedom fighters from the Donetsk people's republic and Lugansk people's republic has protecting the peoples from these Nazi murderers that have no mercy for anyone!
The propaganda lies spreading by the American mass media in the world are just lies to convince people to the American propaganda bologna! the truth is that the Russia is the only one that sending the food and medicines to the Ukraine because even if the Russia is attacked by the Western countries the Russia can't stand and watch on the suffer of the Ukraine and its peoples! the Russia just want to help to its neighbor because the Russia is this kind of country that has helping to these who is in needed!

If USA really wanted peace in Ukraine why arnt they threatening Kiev with sanctions? They only threaten Russia which clearly suggest an agenda going on. What exactly is the motivation for Kiev to stop killing people in the east?

 

[Cavemanjoe]

more?

well, great for British people, who defended their country so bravely against Hitler, are now supporting Kiev Nazis and genocide in Ukraine...how far has Britain fallen!!! if there ever is a WWIII, I can guarantee that many EU people will split and fight on the side of Russia, not against it...some people in my country (in EU) are already talking about creating pro-Russian legions, if we were ever forced to fight!!! I would never ever support any Nazis, banksters, oligarchs and terrorists and no one from my family - just forget it you crazy insane central banksters!!!! You will loose anyway, you kabal, you will be destroyed, as everyone who has ever wanted to rule the world. There is already too many people hating you. Just ask in South America, Just ask in China, in Egypt, Iran, Turkey, in Africa....too many people, whose blood is boiling with anger at the USA and banksters!!! Start a war and most of the world will turn against you. They are already well-armed, Russians are taking care of this, giving more and more weapons to China, Egypt, Iran and the entire South America! Making joint war exercises! Many South American politicians already said: the USA is threat to this entire planet. Better take care, because this could very well turn into the USA/Britain/Israel vs the rest of the world. That would be a great fun actually.

If USA really wanted peace in Ukraine why arent they threatening Kiev with sanctions? They only threaten Russia which clearly suggest an agenda going on. What exactly is the motivation for Kiev to stop killing people in the east?

 

[Cavemanjoe]

and more:

Americans are mostly pacified by the government of elites 1%. The sad thing is that most Americans don't even know that. The tyranny, wars, job-hopping, living from paycheque to paycheque to pay the bills, or spending it on the latest blockbuster war films so that the next day they could brag to their friends about. In America people don't like deep discussions, they haven't been brought up with that, so movies give them something to talk about.


People of the west have got to understand that it's NATO and the U.S that are doing all this. All the U.S and Britain have done is be aggressive and invade, destabilise and destroy other countries in the 21st century. The hypocrite Cammeron and his blind audacity is disgusting, what an evil little cretin he is, as weak as Blair and getting ordered around by the U.S. Again, Russia and Putin aren't the problem and the people of the west have to acknowledge this and change these evil leaders and be the peaceful people we want to be again.

I rest my case !! These are comments from other people !!!

 

[jontte]

so it's the jews again....yup,yup..have heard that rant before..so according to you jews and nazis work together in Ukraine to kill people and brave mad-Vlad sent his legions to defend freedom.....just as the sociopath Stalin sent his legions to liberate Finland in -39....

 

[jontte]

and historically crimea belongs to Latvia,they ruled the peninsula long before any maniac russkies came and annexed/robbed it.

 

[psalm 7]

Cavemanjoe said
(" Russias responce has been reactionary i cant believe the restraint showen by Mr Putin. But once again the fault lies directly at the feet of American forign pollicy along with the blood on their hands.
Washington has set a dangerous precedent by annexing former soviet states through bribery, fraud, infiltration, and deceit. They have done this with relative impunity endangering us all. Unless Washington can be stopped in Ukraine the whole world will pay a price for their relentless march eastward. NATO continues to build its force for the purpose of war not defense. Russia is faced with a tremendous threat from western hegemony and must do whatever it takes to protect itself from the western dogs of war".[/quote]





This type of garbage comes from pinko socialist talking points aimed at thoes that can not think for them selfs . Libralism is a mental disorder .

Jontte .
Im starting to think that Vlad knows he has overplayed his hand . You will start seeing press releases aimed at getting sanctions and embargo's raised and trade resumed .
But you never know with a maniac like Puttin if he is going to do something stupid like a major Military push and land grab he may do so before the next U.S election or during the move from one President to the next . He may even want to waite until Obama is out of office as a token jester between socialist leaders .

 

[Cavemanjoe]

Yeah,yeah,yeah, just keep believing all this US distorted views, I can't wait for this to start and see the ending of all this ****?

 

[Maverick]

It's the Jews fault it's Bush fault, .....where have I heard that before I also heard Bush sunk the Titanic though after the Jews left the boat and I'm sure if I dig deeper I'll find that the Jews paid Bush to start WWI. It's the Jews fault it's Bush fault those two lines are getting so damn old.

 

[Cavemanjoe]

Wake up, Wake up,

America has wanted to do this to Russia & or the USSR, for over 60 years. Not having the Guts to do it openly themselves, they spend Billions to cause uprisings, hiring desperate thugs to do their dirty work.
Another large incident in Europe was in 1999 in Racak, and was probably organized by CIA or parts of it. Serbian police had to leave Racak because they were asked to by international observers. Than Wiliam Walker was on TV with around 40 bodies thrown in a ditch, shortly after Bill Clinton talked about woman and children being killed. This ''massacre'' in Racak was officially used as an excuse for bombing of Yugoslavia. Those serbian police chiefs that organized this attack wanted international investigation and were pretty confident about the whole event. I could tell that they were speaking the truth. There is one documentary about it if you are interested /watch?v=MQCmuEy0xRo
If you ask me, those US idiots (oh yeah I dare to call them idiots) wanna rule the world. And after they come after ukraine and russia, they want to take over china. But china knows that already. The plan of an one world government of us-illuminati will fail.
Whatever that case in razan is it didn't kill people. In the us was a different story. The West should leave Russians to sort their **** out themself.... I can see why the west is against Putin - they don't like strong Russia - economically and politically.

 

[Maverick]

yugoslavian and belarusian in their report stated the dead are not civilians so you are saying the Finns lied? you are saying I should trust yugoslavian and belarusians at that time over the Finns, I say BS, not a chance in hell, don't forget journalists witnessed the accounts first hand eyewitness's from the town that survived all stated the same thing regarding the massacre and how it happen. Your propaganda BS is really getting old. Have a good day cavemanjoe.

 

[Maverick]

For someone that "left" the U.S you seem to be very intrested in what the U.S is doing .

I think he is from the Netherlands not the US

 

[psalm 7]

The live traffic feed showed no one on from the Philippines when he was on before . That option is not on the home page now .

Yes our War aginst the Serbs may have been a mistake . It was pushed by the Clintons , a couple of Puttins fellow Communist . Instead of Hundreds of thousands of muslims they said were being thrown into mass graves around 600 bodies were found that were most likly killed by rouge elements and militia's in reprisal for atrocities commited by the muslim militia's .

Puttin has worked himself into a corner that there is no easy way out . He can save face and back down its easy enough for him to cover up his mistakes lieing to his people that are used to swallowing red commie propaganda and blame the West . Or he can come out fighting and the Russian Military will see Shock and Awe like they could never imagine . Every War the U.S has fought we fought it with only one arm , if the U.S Military were to be truly unleashed on The primitive Russian Military it would take about a month for most of Russia's conventional Military to be defeated .

 

[Maverick]

Joe, we have a Finn here whom is very close to the russian border who is not only concern for his Family but also his Country a Country that has a very very strong history with russia and have the grave markers to prove it and perhaps knows more about russian intent and ideolog then someone that is living in the Philippines including me here in the US and you are discounting his concerns with what is going on near the Finnish border by claiming putin is the good guy and passing ALL the blame onto the West, rt news is the puppets voice of putin so you can believe it all you want, I am certain though given that you believe Bush was behind 9/11 nothing we say here is going to convince you otherwise, putin is a communist pig and will always be a communist pig and that I am certain of.

 

[Cavemanjoe]

Maverick, I'm here because of my believe that I can be relatively safe here, but I have lived and worked in several countries including US, France, Germany, Spain, Romania (still have 2 houses there), Moldova, and yes originally from the Netherlands (born but left at 21 yrs of age). I have seen the world change from bad to worse and that's why I'm here.
Yes our Finnish friend has plenty reason to be worried if this turns into an EU war, because than Putin will not stop at the former USSR borders but will try to take the rest of EU. So lets hope it stops with Ukraine anexation ? But if the west keeps poking him and try to keep him into a corner, the outcome will be worse than it is now? So let the US stop provoking him, the EU countries are already backing out?

 

[Cavemanjoe]

This is from www.thedailysheeple.com

The American Government’s biggest lie in 2002-2003 was about Saddam Hussein and Iraq. We’ve already seen what that lie produced. It cost the U.S. more than $3 trillion, produced ISIS, and caused death and destruction in Iraq that make Saddam Hussein’s dictatorship look benign by comparison. Are Americans still fooling themselves about that? (Some are; but most are not.)

The American Government’s biggest lie in 2014-2015 is instead about Vladimir Putin and Ukraine — and it’s even worse, and far more dangerous, because this one can very possibly lead to a nuclear war, one with Russia that’s totally unnecessary for America’s national-security, and that actually places all of our nation’s security at risk, for the shameful reasons of aristocrats (“oligarchs”) in both the U.S. and Ukraine — not for any real reasons of the American people, at all.

Radio Free Europe, Radio Liberty, or RFE/RL, is a U.S. government broadcaster which, like NATO, was necessary when communism threatened the United States from the Soviet Union, and which, also like NATO, should have been disbanded when the U.S.S.R. and its communist ideology effectively ended. It, like NATO, is now really just a vile vestige of our war against communism, a war that’s gone but which America’s aristocrats want to continue fighting, because America’s aristocracy want to conquer the entire world and want U.S. taxpayers to fund the effort. The ideological excuse is gone, and they want us not to notice that.

A good example of RFE/RL’s current vileness was a story they ran on March 12th, “A Bipartisan Cause In Washington: Arming Ukraine Against Russia,” and it reported that, “Consensus appears to be snowballing among Democratic and Republican lawmakers in the U.S. capital on at least one issue: arming Ukraine. One exception, however, is the figure who matters most: President Barack Obama.”

Earlier, RFE/RL had brazenly reveled in the international success of its campaign to vilify Russia’s President, Vladimir Putin.

And, unfortunately, that entire propaganda campaign is based on blatant lies, just like the propaganda to invade Iraq in 2003 was. But this one is far more dangerous.

 

[Cavemanjoe]

more from the daily sheeple report,

Furthermore, this propaganda campaign (including that article) ignores that the top leaders in Ukraine who are pressing for the U.S. and other Western nations to supply arms to the Ukrainian Government are Ukraine’s ultra-nationalist outright nazis, especially the leaders of Ukraine’s two nazi parties, both of which were created as local copies of Hitler’s Nazi Party, and one of which even called itself the Social Nationalist Party of Ukraine, in order to signal to Ukrainians that it’s in the tradition of Adolf Hitler but just the local, Ukrainian nationalist, version of it. That party’s leader (Andrei Parubiy) was the chief organizer of the Maidan demonstrations that were used by the Obama Administration as cover for the coup that the Obama Administration planned and carried out, which installed the current, rabidly Russia-hating, racist-fascist, Government in Ukraine.

It also ignores that the leader (Dmitriy Yarosh) of the other Ukrainian nazi party (also calling for America to send weapons), which party is called Right Sector, was the organizer of the gunmen whose shooting into the crowd of anti-corruption demonstrators actually brought down the democratically elected President of Ukraine, and thus enabled the Obama Administration to choose the new leader of Ukraine (which Obama’s operative, Victoria Nuland, chose on 4 February 2014, 18 days before the coup).

It also ignores that Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk, who on 4 February 2014 was selected for his post by Victoria Nuland of the U.S. State Department, was quoted by Ukrainian media on Thursday March 12th of 2015 as saying that, “Ukraine is in a state of war with a nuclear state, which is the Russian Federation.” He blamed all of Ukraine’s current problems on Russia, and urged “our Western partners” to send weapons. - See more at: http://www.thedailysheeple.com/the-...nd-vladimir-putin_032015#sthash.5fI24ALY.dpuf

 

[psalm 7]

Ukrainian politics is not the topic , yes they have lots to iron out and they do not need Russia's help . Russia/Puttin have taken this opertunity to make a land grab and create civil unrest in the Ukrain . Puttin and his mafia type Government wants to rebuild the USSR even at the cost of millions of lives in a World War . Despte the Russian and Left Wing propaganda machines I do not see how the Russian People could allow themselve's to be so mislead .
But I also don't see how anyone could be mislead by a smooth talking realestate salesman and invest thier money into a community in the Philippines and be told they need his permission to leave the commune .

 

[Cavemanjoe]

I have no idea what this comment means about the Philippines, you are totally in the dark about what's happening in the world and are asleep as most of the western world, Have a nice day you all?

 

[jontte]

as a Finn I find this joe guy yet again utterly offending,that type is willing to throw my country to the wolf just to satisfy his own believe in superior-russia.
if it comes to a shooting game, I can only hope I will be as brave as my grandpa and perform my duties and put down as many enemies as possible.
nothing good has ever come to this country from over there,some are willing to co-operate with mad-Vlad and do the best to spread his propaganda,I'm not..and never will.
the free world doesn't need to vilify mad-Vlad,he is a villain,dangerous one,someone who want to rule like Stalin and kill his opponents.
russia is not a democracy.it's only a kleptocracy and it will be like that for several generations...as those poor buggers don't know of any better,they have been under the thumb for so long,it's more like natural for them,they don't know of any better.

 

[jontte]

what keeps me wondering,if we here are so mis-lead and confused and thinking sooo wrongly about the ever so great,peace loving, philanthropist mad-Vlad why are you cavemanjoe here??
you think you can convert us to little loyal putin-men?? for your information;IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN!your putinganda does not sink in,he is a crook,war-monger,danger to peace and that's it,period!

 

[jontte]

what puzzles me is that the rhetoric joe uses is so similar to another dude I encountered from Netherlands Antilles on a Finnish forum of current armed conflicts in the world,more or less the same sources and web pages,same rant about mad-Vlad being the bird of peace and savior of this planet....

 

[Cavemanjoe]

Well Jontte, you don't have to like me at all but I can express my meanings and believes freely in this world.
If you want to take it personally then that's not my problem, I see it my way and you your way? And neither Putin or the US have my support, but the US has ptoven to be the agressor in the past 20 yrs, not Mad-Vlad, he's protecting his people?
And he still has not crossed into Ukraine with an army, just some rebels helping their russian families. The only one who send Aid is Putin, the west only weapons and don't give a **** about eastern Ukrain population !!!

 

[jontte]

yup,this is a free forum in the free world,not controlled by mad-Vlad!
mad-Vlad himself admitted some time ago that he sent his armed forces over to Ukraine,he admitted he had his armed forces sent to conquer Crimea..and he supplied the rebels with arms.

 

[jontte]

and yes our point of views are so far apart that they will never cross,my country has to much bad history with the russkies and it will take centuries before one can trust them...no matter what the politicians may say

 

[Cavemanjoe]

I think and am pretty sure that should the west leave Vlad alone and get out of Ukraine the problem would solve itself?
Even if Putin wants Ukraine (or part of it ), so let him have it? The Ukrainien government obviously does not care about its eastern part and population at all, so let all Russian speaking people decide in a referendum what they want and where they want to belong? Vlad did not invade Cremea because his troops were already there, that's not an invasion? Cremea decide it wanted to be Russian in a +90% referendum so why not let them? I think more ex-rusia states may also decide to go back under Russian control, SO WHAT !! Let them decide for themselves and leave them fight their own battles? Just get out!!

 

[jontte]

NO! we can't please that maniac,it's already gone to far, Chamberlain tried it in Munchen and as a result Europe got ww2,and that referendum in Crimea was a joke,nothing more,nothing less!

 

[Cavemanjoe]

If the west does not get out you'll definitely get a WW3. And what about Iran and China?

RELATED: Is Iran playing the U.S. in the nuclear talks?

Frank Gaffney, founder and president of the Center for Security Policy, said the threat to the grid can also come from solar activity.

He has been pushing Washington and state governments to take the relatively inexpensive move to protect the electric grid, though his concern is from a nuclear attack by Iran or North Korea.

"It is increasingly frightening," he said. "We have to get started on this."

He noted that Iran's top military leader recently announced that he was ready for war with the U.S.

"We are ready for the decisive battle against the U.S. and the Zionist regime," Iranian Armed Forces Chief of Staff General Hassan Firouzabadi told Iran's Fars News Agency in 2014.

Below is from Pry's column that discusses an Iran EMP attack:


Iran armed with nuclear missiles poses an unprecedented threat to global civilization.

One nuclear warhead detonated at high-altitude over the United States would blackout the national electric grid and other life sustaining critical infrastructures for months or years by means of an electromagnetic pulse (EMP). A nationwide blackout lasting one year, according to the Congressional EMP Commission, could cause chaos and starvation that leaves 90 percent of Americans dead.

Iranian military documents describe such a scenario--including a recently translated Iranian military textbook that endorses nuclear EMP attack against the United States.

Thus, Iran with a small number of nuclear missiles can by EMP attack threaten the existence of modernity and be the death knell for Western principles of international law, humanism and freedom. For the first time in history, a failed state like Iran could destroy the most successful societies on Earth and convert an evolving benign world order into world chaos.

Paul Bedard, the Washington Examiner's "Washington Secrets" columnist, can be contacted at [email protected].

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Pry has suggested ways for Iran to deliver a nuclear attack: by ship launched off the East Coast, a missile or via satellite.
Either way the result could be destruction of all or part of the U.S. electric grid, robbing the public of power, computers, water and communications for potentially a year.

RELATED:Is Iran playing the U.S. in the nuclear talks?

Frank Gaffney, founder and president of the Center for Security Policy, said the threat to the grid can also come from solar activity.

He has been pushing Washington and state governments to take the relatively inexpensive move to protect the electric grid, though his concern is from a nuclear attack by Iran or North Korea.

"It is increasingly frightening," he said. "We have to get started on this."

He noted that Iran'stop military leaderrecently announced that he was ready for war with the U.S.

"We are ready for the decisive battle against the U.S. and the Zionist regime," Iranian Armed Forces Chief of Staff General Hassan Firouzabadi told Iran's Fars News Agency in 2014.

Below is from Pry's column that discusses an Iran EMP attack:


Iran armed with nuclear missiles poses an unprecedented threat to global civilization.

One nuclear warhead detonated at high-altitude over the United States would blackout the national electric grid and other life sustaining critical infrastructures for months or years by means of an electromagnetic pulse (EMP). A nationwide blackout lasting one year, according to the Congressional EMP Commission, could cause chaos and starvation that leaves 90 percent of Americans dead.

Iranian military documents describe such a scenario--including a recently translated Iranian military textbook that endorses nuclear EMP attack against the United States.

Thus, Iran with a small number of nuclear missiles can by EMP attack threaten the existence of modernity and be the death knell for Western principles of international law, humanism and freedom. For the first time in history, a failed state like Iran could destroy the most successful societies on Earth and convert an evolving benign world order into world chaos.

Paul Bedard, the Washington Examiner's "Washington Secrets" columnist, can be contacted at [email protected]

 

[Maverick]

At the moment iran doesn't pose a direct threat to the US and yes, iran is playing the obama administration, iran see's the same weakness in the US president as putin does though putin has the reach whereas iran doesn't neither does north korea, iran nor north korea hasn't recently annexed anything or attempted take over of a country as russia has recently done. putin is also the one publicly stating that nuclear options are open if he feels threaten, putin is the one talking nuclear and practicing bombing runs not the West! The West training exercise is conventional while Putin's is strategic nuclear strikes, putin is the one talking war with the West and US, putin's 'actions' and 'words' are causing the rift not from the US or the West.