Gloves are effective if used properly. It’s when they give you a false sense of being protected and you carry on with touching everything including your face is when they become ineffective.
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This argument isn’t about who has the biggest penis here. We should all be conscious of how dangerous this disease is to the segment of our population that is old or has compromised health. If people are so adamant about their personal rights being infringed upon then they are just being selfish.
I agree to an extent. Those who are fat, drink, smoke and don’t exercise are a real drain on our medical system. And since Obama fudged up our healthcare it means even more so that We The People have to pay for those who don’t take care of themselves and make poor choices...such as not wearing a mask.
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Late at night and my fingers were outrunning my brain. That's why I retracted it.
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I reject that premise. Dying young of a sudden heart attack or stroke is not a drain on the medical system, quite the opposite. Getting diabetes, maybe... But getting cancer at 85 (like my mother did) is much more of a drain than dying of a massive coronary at 55.
NEWS FLASH: EVERYONE DIES!
And the the longer you put off dying, the more medical care you require.
You are a numbers guy. If you saw the numbers you would agree that those folks are the drain. They don’t normally die quickly, just have health issue after health issue for many years.
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How bout the numbers on the diseases that obesity and smoking affects? The younger generation these days are not nearly as healthy as our generation was. The middle aged aren’t either. We have too many overweight people. And they do indeed affect our healthcare system. I’ve seen the numbers for years as my hubby worked in the field that has the data.
I wear a mask to protect myself from those who do not. In Asia they wear masks so they do not infect others if they are ill. It's a respect thing; something most Americans lack.
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In Asia they were already wearing masks in the cities because of the particulate air pollution. This goes back at least 20 years if not more. I remember blowing black stuff out of my nose for days after visiting in-laws in Taipei.
Pollution is certainly a reason for some, many reasons, but certainly, concern for their fellow man
What It Means To Wear A Face Mask In America
by Connie Wang
If you wear one here, you are gullible, selfish, foreign, sick, and asking for attention. But in Asia, face masks mean something else altogether.
"..over my 30-some years of traveling to China for work and to see family, I’ve worn face masks each time.. In China, as in many countries in East Asia, face masks are as common a sight in public as a pair of headphones... A person who wears a mask isn’t admitting that they are sick or paranoid: They’re acknowledging that they are aware of their civic duty regarding public health. In fact, those who refused to wear them during the outbreak — or wore them incorrectly — drew criticism. In these countries, a mask is a symbol of reassurance. It represents communal trust, a pact that we’re all in this together.
https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2020/03/9497452/asian-face-mask-coronavirus-racism
Why Wearing a Face Mask Is Encouraged in Asia, but Shunned in the U.S.
“I felt very humiliated and misunderstood,” says Man, a 20-year-old student and research assistant who is ethnically Chinese.
Man also feels the stigma at her workplace, where she keeps her mask on. None of her colleagues wear a face mask, and some of them have asked her if she is sick.
“Why do they think it’s about me? It’s a civic duty,” she says. “If I have a mask on, and if—touch wood—I’m infected, I could cut the chain off where I am. That could save a lot of people.”
https://time.com/5799964/coronavirus-face-mask-asia-us/
What It Means To Wear A Face Mask In America
by Connie Wang
If you wear one here, you are gullible, selfish, foreign, sick, and asking for attention. But in Asia, face masks mean something else altogether.
"..over my 30-some years of traveling to China for work and to see family, I’ve worn face masks each time.. In China, as in many countries in East Asia, face masks are as common a sight in public as a pair of headphones... A person who wears a mask isn’t admitting that they are sick or paranoid: They’re acknowledging that they are aware of their civic duty regarding public health. In fact, those who refused to wear them during the outbreak — or wore them incorrectly — drew criticism. In these countries, a mask is a symbol of reassurance. It represents communal trust, a pact that we’re all in this together.
https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2020/03/9497452/asian-face-mask-coronavirus-racism
Why Wearing a Face Mask Is Encouraged in Asia, but Shunned in the U.S.
“I felt very humiliated and misunderstood,” says Man, a 20-year-old student and research assistant who is ethnically Chinese.
Man also feels the stigma at her workplace, where she keeps her mask on. None of her colleagues wear a face mask, and some of them have asked her if she is sick.
“Why do they think it’s about me? It’s a civic duty,” she says. “If I have a mask on, and if—touch wood—I’m infected, I could cut the chain off where I am. That could save a lot of people.”
https://time.com/5799964/coronavirus-face-mask-asia-us/
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Oh GOOD GRIEF! Who the hell is stricken with fear, uncertainty and xenophobia by the sight of a fricken mask? Nobody I know. Snowflakes maybe. They are stricken with fear and uncertainty by their own shadows!
I am still looking for sales on meat to buy for the possible shortage that is coming. One of the things I am noticing in all the local grocery flyers is that pork is on sale.. one or two items of beef, but everything is pork.. no chicken or turkey. Smithfield ( Chinese owned pork plant) closed and their bacon is on sale ( not buying it). I am wondering if this is just a coincidence? or are they trying to get rid of pork quickly for some reason? Any thoughts?
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I don't know but I did notice a lot more pork than usual last time I was at the supermarket.
No, just the guy with the biggest ....... lol
I got three packs just in case!
Uh, you just described HALF of America.
Ah, it is to protect others B.S. again. You want to protect other, then YOU ware all the Hazmat suits and then you can walk through YOUR decontamination chamber. Then you have done YOUR part to protect. The bleating heart images are not pertinent to the discussion of rights vs. government control.
The stores do have the right to refuse entry or service to people that do not follow their policies, just as I would have the right to not patronize their establishment. Again people are not understanding the issue. It is Constitutional rights vs. fear and government control. The stores are private property and they do have the "Right" to set policy. I have the "Right" to not use a store, if I disagree with their policy. The stores cannot "FORCE" me to enter and follow their rules. Companies do have the right to not hire me. I also have the right to not work for a company I disagree with, and they can't force me to stay and comply with their policies. Individuals have a "Right" to use or not use protective gear. Individual choice does have responsibilities. I am responsible to wear as much protective gear as I feel is needed to protect ME. If you choose to not protect yourself, then that is your problem. It is not my right to tell you what you have to do or not do. AND no, you are not jeopardizing me, if I have taken responsibility and protected myself. The issue is not common sense vs, free choice. The issue is government through force of arms or threat of force of arms, requiring a person to surrender their freedoms. That is the real issue.
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You just repeated pretty much what I said And everyone else apparently has the RIGHT to protect themselves by using LETHAL force if they believe they are in imminent danger be it by an armed robber OR by someone carrying a lethal disease. So if everyone else in town is masked up but you aint and they think you may be infected........................go figure.
Nowhere did I say you have the right to use "Lethal force" or for that matter, any force at all. YOU have the right to own and ware as much protective gear as you feel is needed. My position does not result in anybody being deprived of their rights. You having a drink and car keys does not give me the right to use any force, just in case yo may decide to go for a drive. Very poor logic.
This guy was driving his jeep through Juarez, and I guess the locals feared him because he had NY plates.
New York man and girlfriend quarantining in Mexico are shot and killed
https://www.yahoo.com/news/york-man-girlfriend-quarantining-mexico-134239998.html
Then there's THIS guy...
Georgia teen allegedly killed by stepfather after refusing to stay home and shelter in place
https://fox8.com/news/georgia-teen-...r-refusing-to-stay-home-and-shelter-in-place/
New York man and girlfriend quarantining in Mexico are shot and killed
https://www.yahoo.com/news/york-man-girlfriend-quarantining-mexico-134239998.html
Then there's THIS guy...
Georgia teen allegedly killed by stepfather after refusing to stay home and shelter in place
https://fox8.com/news/georgia-teen-...r-refusing-to-stay-home-and-shelter-in-place/
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I'm tellin' ya. New York City is like the country's leper colony. This has done more damage to New York PR than all obnoxious foul mouthed New Yorkers combined.
One thing I have noticed is more homeless people asking for help. This week I have given food or money to two different people. In my town there are not a lot of homeless people and they usually keep to their areas and do their own thing. I don't know if they are getting bolder, or their usual sources are dried up, or if there are more of them?
Ours appear to have vanished or been rounded up and housed in temporary accomodation.
No one likes to see the homeless begging at intersections on the street. I feel suspicious of them myself a lot of the time. It’s easy to forget how easily any one of us are just a few paychecks away from being there ourselves.
No it's not easy for me or likely anyone of us preppers are a few paychecks away from being there. The people are there by there lifestyle choices. They where not prepared. They chose to live beyond there means from pay check to pay check.
You really believe that?!
You should go outside and talk to a few of them...
I did (and I'm not even living in the USA) and listened to heartbreaking stories they had to tell (in exchange for a coffee and something to eat).
I agree, lots of people lost employment from this. Lots had huge medical debts. Lots just had bad luck. Many women just had their husband leave them to fend for themselves. Not everyone on the street right now, and in the near future, woke up and said I’m tired of working and want to be a bum. Can you really just write off the mentally ill that aren’t capable of taking care of themselves?
Yes I do, I was referring to Brent's statement about any one of us, Us meaning preppers. Who are you referring to? How is my opinion referring to peppers incorrect?
