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Well doesn't this just figure:

"The Pentagon acknowledges that the US has spent $200 million on programs in 46 biolabs in Ukraine since launched by young Senator Barack Obama in 2005."

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...lion-bioresearch-ukraine-numerous-facilities/
But anyone who says this out loud is censored or threatened with arrest as a traitor. IT'S OBVIOUS they were using the Ukraine for criminal activity.

If the so-called elites want a war with Russia, let them fight it themselves.

https://thenationalpulse.com/2022/03/08/obama-led-ukraine-biolab-efforts/
 
GaryLa said:
If the so-called elites want a war with Russia, let them fight it themselves.
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There I am 100% your opinion, I think also if our government with sanctions provokes that the war comes here you should stand straight for it (or hang for it).
Only as history shows, at the end the normal citizen will have to stand up for the crap and give his life for it while the elite sits in the bunker and laughs at us.

I was discharged from the service a few years ago due to age, I heard 5 days ago that my country in the event of a major incident (war) citizens can force back under the flag, so to speak.
Since my country is now officially designated as an enemy in Russia only because of my government, one must expect that the Russians will not stop at my country if the situation in Ukraine gets out of hand.
But one thing is for sure, if the Russians come here, I will not volunteer for service, and if they want to force me to do so, I will fight against my own MP or other camouflaged henchmen who would come to get me. They would not get me alive and would have at the end probably a few of the people less who would get me.

Every country that is smaller than Russia and has no army that can do anything against Russia should surrender early in the interest of its own people if it would be attacked by Russia, everything else is a waste of human lives and a completely destroyed infrastructure in the end.
 
ban1985 said:
There I am 100% your opinion, I think also if our government with sanctions provokes that the war comes here you should stand straight for it (or hang for it).
Only as history shows, at the end the normal citizen will have to stand up for the crap and give his life for it while the elite sits in the bunker and laughs at us.

I was discharged from the service a few years ago due to age, I heard 5 days ago that my country in the event of a major incident (war) citizens can force back under the flag, so to speak.
Since my country is now officially designated as an enemy in Russia only because of my government, one must expect that the Russians will not stop at my country if the situation in Ukraine gets out of hand.
But one thing is for sure, if the Russians come here, I will not volunteer for service, and if they want to force me to do so, I will fight against my own MP or other camouflaged henchmen who would come to get me. They would not get me alive and would have at the end probably a few of the people less who would get me.

Every country that is smaller than Russia and has no army that can do anything against Russia should surrender early in the interest of its own people if it would be attacked by Russia, everything else is a waste of human lives and a completely destroyed infrastructure in the end.
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I'll may would defend my country. But of course not one of this lying and cheating politicans who reveal our country permanently. So I'll wait until all of them are standing in the absolutly first line, really face-to-face to the enemy. And when they all found their peace on the battlefield, then i'm ready too. Before i just defend myself, my family and those people who was always loyal and fair to me.

I bet i never need a weapon more than for my selfdefense.....
 
Our entire government would piss itself with fear if you would stand in front of Putin.
Yes to the country I would stand, but no longer in the front row and a superior behind me with the barrel of the gun in the back presses.

This is definitely not my war anymore, especially not in an army that people from my time in the army in 2006 said that we are just a legacy from another time in the army and no longer have any value.
 
This war can drag on for another year or it can be brought to an end today. Either way the outcome and final terms are going to be the same. Come hell or high water Russia is going to prevail. Pressure, real pressure, not platitudes, have to be put on Zelensky to set his ego aside and conclude this war for the sake of Ukrainians who now live. Europe needs to get back to normal. America needs to focus on its real problems, not what the media wants us to focus on.
 
I think more and more that Selenskyj has either gone insane or that the guy was put into office from the beginning knowing that he would sacrifice everyone including his population for his goals.

https://www.wochenblick.at/allgemein/fuer-mehr-waffen-selenski-droht-westen-mit-3-weltkrieg/
Selenskyj has no interest in peace and he has no interest in protecting his population, the attacks against civilians in eastern Ukraine he has silently tolerated and supported for years.
This man is not a hero, this man also supports murder and manslaughter and does everything to drag other countries into this conflict.
There was probably rarely anyone in the world who demanded from all countries weapons, soldiers and war equipment (of course without paying for these things) and in the same breath still insult these countries and insult big companies.
The tragedy is, the other countries still put up with it, and the politicians here completely embarrass themselves in front of the people, the decomposition of Europe is currently even faster than in the times of Corona and it is unlikely that we get around a world war.

The reality in Europe is that fleeing women and children are already being trafficked and perverted in Europe who are personally exploiting them and forcing them into prostitution, and virtually all of Europe is on Russia's enemies list. Overall, the threat from Russia is currently higher than during the Cold War, only this time our politicians are responsible.
If Russia has Ukraine in its hands, we will pay dearly for it, either with revenge or with thousands of bankrupt companies, because the energy prices and raw material shortages will bankrupt our entire industry.
 
Here, MS media also made big reports that Russia blew up a shopping mall a few days ago for no reason and dozens of civilians were killed. The media here try with all means to justify a NATO intervention, since the EU have all Russian news channels on the Internet, TV and radio blocked and censored it is very difficult to make an independent picture of it, for the reason the EU has probably also done that you can spread false messages.
In a roundabout way I also got this page, also the video is there still available what was there under the shopping center.
Since the video is just leaked MS media here have withdrawn all reports about the case, but the media condemned the Ukraine of course not that you station weapons systems near civilian buildings and violate international law.

Russia may commit crimes, but Ukrainian crimes are no better, only, the authorities here are silent about it.

https://de.rt.com/international/134342-beschossenes-einkaufszentrum-in-kiew-videobeweise/
https://de.rt.com/europa/134290-bil...ene-einkaufszentrum-kiew-militaerisches-ziel/
 
ban1985 said:
Every country that is smaller than Russia and has no army that can do anything against Russia should surrender early in the interest of its own people if it would be attacked by Russia, everything else is a waste of human lives and a completely destroyed infrastructure in the end.
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thank God my grandfather and his buddies didn't share that 😾 view of yours,when they fought against russia, with a view like that you don't deserve to be independent.

you only deserve to be a serf to russia.
 
If I had lived 80 years ago like his grandfather I would have seen it differently, at that time our army had about 1 million soldiers, today our army has about 90,000 soldiers and 95% of them are NOT trained for war.

You Finns have achieved something, my respect and I mean it seriously, you have today probably fortunately still the right military infrastructure, here everything was rebuilt and destroyed by their own hands, how should I fight against Russians without the right material? And no, our army can no longer equip thousands of civilians with weapons, these times are over, so I would have to fight with stones against Ivan, you can also achieve something with stones, but no longer when you are surrounded by 95% unicorn sheep whose weapon is a sign that says Stop Russia.
 
But the latter only on paper, I didn't know that we have oil fields and build our army equipment ourselves. 🤣
 
ban1985 said:
I think more and more that Selenskyj has either gone insane or that the guy was put into office from the beginning knowing that he would sacrifice everyone including his population for his goals.

https://www.wochenblick.at/allgemein/fuer-mehr-waffen-selenski-droht-westen-mit-3-weltkrieg/
Selenskyj has no interest in peace and he has no interest in protecting his population, the attacks against civilians in eastern Ukraine he has silently tolerated and supported for years.
This man is not a hero, this man also supports murder and manslaughter and does everything to drag other countries into this conflict.
There was probably rarely anyone in the world who demanded from all countries weapons, soldiers and war equipment (of course without paying for these things) and in the same breath still insult these countries and insult big companies.
The tragedy is, the other countries still put up with it, and the politicians here completely embarrass themselves in front of the people, the decomposition of Europe is currently even faster than in the times of Corona and it is unlikely that we get around a world war.

The reality in Europe is that fleeing women and children are already being trafficked and perverted in Europe who are personally exploiting them and forcing them into prostitution, and virtually all of Europe is on Russia's enemies list. Overall, the threat from Russia is currently higher than during the Cold War, only this time our politicians are responsible.
If Russia has Ukraine in its hands, we will pay dearly for it, either with revenge or with thousands of bankrupt companies, because the energy prices and raw material shortages will bankrupt our entire industry.
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The title of your first link translated: For More Weapons, Zelensky Threatens the West with World War Three.

This is where we are with this guy. He is becoming more and more irrational.
 
Schattentarn said:
This war can drag on for another year or it can be brought to an end today. Either way the outcome and final terms are going to be the same. Come hell or high water Russia is going to prevail. Pressure, real pressure, not platitudes, have to be put on Zelensky to set his ego aside and conclude this war for the sake of Ukrainians who now live. Europe needs to get back to normal. America needs to focus on its real problems, not what the media wants us to focus on.
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They NEED to distract the sheeple from what the deadly vax is doing. They NEED to distract all of us from doing anything about FOOD and feeding ourselves until it is too late.
 
Germany and to some extent Poland are doing a lot at the moment that can annoy Russia very much, that is a fact.
I am NOT saying that everything Russia does is good, and I don't like the situation in Ukraine at the moment, but it is urgent that we talk to both parties and listen to them to find solutions.
Currently the problem is that no one offers a neutral round table to talk, on the other hand, almost all countries are no longer neutral or have buried the neutrality like my country within minutes.

If the arms deliveries continue or NATO sends "peacekeepers" to Ukraine, World War 3 is not a probability but a reality within hours.
Europe forgets what Russia has under the ground in missiles and Europe still does not know how dangerous the situation is, here any kind of reality has been lost and when the first impact happens all will disappear into the holes.
 
Helen Back said:
What if Putin is doing more than one thing at a time? What if he is getting rid of old tech to make room for new, while also filling those old tanks and vehicles with soy boy half men woke types in Russia, while ALSO getting other countries to use up tons of money and weapons on them, while ALLLSO exposing their corruption? Some people can only think checkers, not chess.

The US military is filling up with soy boy half men, and feminazis too. They already pay for tranny surgeries for troops!!! It kind of doesn;t bother me since they will be going to war, instead of real men that we will need to overthrow the socialist/commie coup of the new "left". The pieces are falling into place.
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And BICRAP has fallen for it hook line and sinker!!!!
 
The total losses of the Russian Federation since the beginning of the war - about 19.1 thousand. people, 151 aircraft, 136 helicopters, 705 tanks and 1,895 armored vehicles


Russian troops invading Ukraine continue to suffer losses. As of the morning of April 9, the losses of enemy personnel amounted to about 19.1 thousand. man. This was reported by Censor.NET with reference to the press center of the General Staff of the APU. As noted, the total combat losses of the enemy from 24.02 to 09.04 are approximately:
personnel - about 19,100 people,
tanks - 705 units,
armored combat vehicles - 1895 units,
artillery systems - 335 units,
MLRS - 108 units,
air defense means - 55 units,
aircraft - 151 units,
helicopters - 136 units,
automotive equipment - 1363 units, ships / boats - 7 units,
tanks with fuels and lubricants - 76,
UAV operational and tactical level - 112.
Special equipment - 25. OTRK / TRK launchers - 4.
 
The future of the war in Ukraine

About further events in the Russian-Ukrainian war.
1. No negotiations are possible until Ukraine's victory at the front. If Putin wants to save his army, there is only one way, as near Kyiv - to quickly cease fire and flee.
2. The Ukrainian people will not stop until they destroy the Russian occupiers all over the country, including Donbass. Because our army will not slow down on the line of contact in Donbass on February 24.
3. The war will be long, because Russia has begun mobilization and still retains a great advantage in military equipment, tanks, artillery, aircraft, helicopters, missiles.
4. NATO countries are no longer mediators between Ukraine and Putin - the West has started its war with Putin, political, economic, informational activities, and military support for Ukraine. Therefore, Putin has no chance of even winning a military victory. Ukraine has a much greater resource for war from all over the West.
5. Ukraine has a great advantage in people and every day reduces the advantage of the enemy in technology. In this war of attrition, our advantage will increase. 6. In modern warfare, it is not the number of people and weapons that wins, but the ability to inflict significant losses on the enemy on a particular section of the front. Professionalism and combat effectiveness should be determined by maximizing enemy losses and minimizing one's own losses.
7. Ukraine will win, with great losses and destruction, but will destroy the Russian threat to Europe, and this will be one of the most significant events of the 21st century.
 
Ukraine will fight and in parallel will look for opportunities for dialogue with Russia, - Zelensky

Ukraine is ready to negotiate to end the war, but is also ready to fight for its territory. The head of state stated this at a press conference after talks with Federal Chancellor of Austria Karl Negammer in Kyiv, Censor.NET reports. "Ukraine has always said that it is ready for negotiations and will look for some way to end the war," the president stressed. Zelensky also noted that Russian troops are going to occupy another part of our territories. "It will be a difficult battle. We believe in our struggle, we believe in our victory. Therefore, we are ready to fight and at the same time look for certain ways in diplomacy that can stop this war. ... I will tell you frankly: while we are talking and about the parallel dialogue," he added. Commenting on the situation at the front, Zelensky noted that the course of events would depend on many factors. "It depends on how strong we are. It depends on how fast our partners are with the supply of weapons. It depends on how the leader of the Russian Federation is ready to go further. On many things. Most importantly, everything will depend primarily on our Armed Forces , so the most important thing is that we are ready in any of these areas," he explained.
 
09.04.22 23:20
The Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Chernihiv region destroyed a large number of equipment of the Russian invaders. PHOTO report

Ukrainian defenders in the Chernihiv region gave battle to the Russian invaders and destroyed most of the enemy's equipment. The photo was made public by Andriy Kudabekov, one of the defenders of Chernihiv, Censor.NET reports. “Part of the equipment of the survivors is being handed over to the relevant units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and we also took a little for ourselves ... I won’t brag, because let the “brothers” who want to return to hell do not know what surprises await them.
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